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<blockquote data-quote="Digerati" data-source="post: 769590" data-attributes="member: 59833"><p>Most likely you do - unless your car is from the 60s or something earlier. Computers have been in cars all around the world since the early 1980s for emissions control. Many automatic transmissions and anti-lock breaks used them too. And then more and more computing power was added for all sorts of things. Of course today, even basic entry level cars (and smart phones) have more computing power than went to the moon.</p><p>And I am saying with it happening just once, it would be nearly impossible to conclusively say it was the SSD's fault. It could have easily been the motherboard, power supply, cable, gremlins or something else. And for sure, one failure with one drive in no way suggests a pattern with all SSDs.</p><p></p><p>I have no clue what you mean by "EC" but sorry, most are not labeled "Ambient". If you mean Error Correction, that has nothing to do with temperatures. Again, the <a href="https://www.bing.com/search?q=ambient+temperauture&qs=n&form=QBRE&sp=-1&pq=ambient+temperauture&sc=8-20&sk=&cvid=9D9D9E92D722453BA403B076024F0CAA" target="_blank">ambient temperature</a> is the air temperature of the computer's surrounding environment. As Local Host correctly stated, it would make no sense to monitor that and in fact, it would be impossible to measure it accurately because the computer itself generates heat. So any sensor would be thrown off by the notebook's own heat. </p><p></p><p>This is exactly why most cell phones no longer have ambient heat sensors. Some did years ago but users were complaining they were woefully inaccurate. And they were - especially after the phone was used for just a few minutes. While there are ambient apps, they are not worth your time. </p><p></p><p>And while 84% humidity is high, that is nothing compared to what is normally found in Florida, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisanna, and East Texas throughout much of the summer. I live 1/2 mile from the Missouri River in Nebraska and humidity in 90s is not unusual at all. Totally miserable, but not unusual.</p><p><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite111" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":(" /> That's just nonsense! Again, homework! Got a link to such wild claims? Because again, no they aren't. Why would they be? If this were true, they would be using hard drives in cars. The engine compartment of a car can go from sub-zero over 100°F in just a few minutes. Even inside the passenger compartment, the temperatures could go from sub-zero to 70 or so in just a few minutes. That's a huge swing. </p><p></p><p>The materials in the SSD memory modules is nearly identical to those used in a CPU. They are just transistor gates. And look how fast and how extreme the changes in temperature a CPU can be subjected to. And it was already shown above where the operating range of a SSD is wider than that of a hard drive!</p><p></p><p>Plus, contrary to what some folks believe, hard drives are <u>NOT</u> hermetically sealed. In fact, there is a tiny hole in every hard drive that is specifically designed to let air in and out to ensure pressure is properly equalized as the elevation changes (critical in airplanes!). This tiny hole is filtered to block dust, but it can let humidity in. And when there is an extreme temperature change with humid air, condensation can actually form on the platters. Not good. </p><p></p><p>The REAL facts are, <a href="https://www.howtogeek.com/234640/are-external-usb-hard-drives-at-risk-from-internal-condensation/" target="_blank"><strong>hard drives are more more susceptible to problems due to changes in temperatures! </strong></a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Digerati, post: 769590, member: 59833"] Most likely you do - unless your car is from the 60s or something earlier. Computers have been in cars all around the world since the early 1980s for emissions control. Many automatic transmissions and anti-lock breaks used them too. And then more and more computing power was added for all sorts of things. Of course today, even basic entry level cars (and smart phones) have more computing power than went to the moon. And I am saying with it happening just once, it would be nearly impossible to conclusively say it was the SSD's fault. It could have easily been the motherboard, power supply, cable, gremlins or something else. And for sure, one failure with one drive in no way suggests a pattern with all SSDs. I have no clue what you mean by "EC" but sorry, most are not labeled "Ambient". If you mean Error Correction, that has nothing to do with temperatures. Again, the [URL='https://www.bing.com/search?q=ambient+temperauture&qs=n&form=QBRE&sp=-1&pq=ambient+temperauture&sc=8-20&sk=&cvid=9D9D9E92D722453BA403B076024F0CAA']ambient temperature[/URL] is the air temperature of the computer's surrounding environment. As Local Host correctly stated, it would make no sense to monitor that and in fact, it would be impossible to measure it accurately because the computer itself generates heat. So any sensor would be thrown off by the notebook's own heat. This is exactly why most cell phones no longer have ambient heat sensors. Some did years ago but users were complaining they were woefully inaccurate. And they were - especially after the phone was used for just a few minutes. While there are ambient apps, they are not worth your time. And while 84% humidity is high, that is nothing compared to what is normally found in Florida, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisanna, and East Texas throughout much of the summer. I live 1/2 mile from the Missouri River in Nebraska and humidity in 90s is not unusual at all. Totally miserable, but not unusual. :( That's just nonsense! Again, homework! Got a link to such wild claims? Because again, no they aren't. Why would they be? If this were true, they would be using hard drives in cars. The engine compartment of a car can go from sub-zero over 100°F in just a few minutes. Even inside the passenger compartment, the temperatures could go from sub-zero to 70 or so in just a few minutes. That's a huge swing. The materials in the SSD memory modules is nearly identical to those used in a CPU. They are just transistor gates. And look how fast and how extreme the changes in temperature a CPU can be subjected to. And it was already shown above where the operating range of a SSD is wider than that of a hard drive! Plus, contrary to what some folks believe, hard drives are [U]NOT[/U] hermetically sealed. In fact, there is a tiny hole in every hard drive that is specifically designed to let air in and out to ensure pressure is properly equalized as the elevation changes (critical in airplanes!). This tiny hole is filtered to block dust, but it can let humidity in. And when there is an extreme temperature change with humid air, condensation can actually form on the platters. Not good. The REAL facts are, [URL='https://www.howtogeek.com/234640/are-external-usb-hard-drives-at-risk-from-internal-condensation/'][B]hard drives are more more susceptible to problems due to changes in temperatures! [/B][/URL] [/QUOTE]
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