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<blockquote data-quote="509322" data-source="post: 778376">My post was a reply to the claim that 3rd party publishers just whine and complain that Microsoft is doing everything it can to put them out of business. It&#039;s not some kind of fallacy or conspiracy theory that 3rd party publishers just came up with. Courts have repeatedly censured Microsoft for abusing its position and acting as a monopoly.As far as Windows Defender and Windows security, it just isn&#039;t a very good solution - its usability is terrible, there is virtually no documentation, there is no support unless the consumer pays Microsoft $100, it is prone to high infection rates because it will fail easily in the hands of those who are not security conscious. Pro pen-testers have proven that time and again. So people are most definitely better off with any of the better 3rd party security products.The only ones who can really benefit from Windows Defender and Windows security are geeks that tweak - and that is essentially turning Windows security into a wholly default-deny protection model. Even then there&#039;s a bunch of problems that I have seen in my tests.I remember years ago people saying &quot;Look, Windows security is getting so awesome... now we have Microsoft Security Essentials.&quot; It&#039;s no different today. Everyone wants to tout way-overcomplicated &quot;improvements.&quot;Even more telling is the fact that Windows Defender ATP is not doing very well in the marketplace. There just hasn&#039;t been a whole lot of interest in the product for the same reasons... IT Pros don&#039;t wanna deal with a product that has little to no documentation, that is expensive, is a pain to use, etc.I just find it curious that people will defend Microsoft when the security it puts onto Home versions is a half-baked version of protection clearly meant for IT Pro E5 level. Windows Home security is a mere afterthought. So Microsoft isn&#039;t doing any favors for any home user - because the very people who need the full featured security the most don&#039;t get it. And even if they did get it, they couldn&#039;t use it because Microsoft doesn&#039;t focus on usability nor documentation. What a mess. And it&#039;s all Microsoft&#039;s doing.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="509322, post: 778376"] My post was a reply to the claim that 3rd party publishers just whine and complain that Microsoft is doing everything it can to put them out of business. It's not some kind of fallacy or conspiracy theory that 3rd party publishers just came up with. Courts have repeatedly censured Microsoft for abusing its position and acting as a monopoly. As far as Windows Defender and Windows security, it just isn't a very good solution - its usability is terrible, there is virtually no documentation, there is no support unless the consumer pays Microsoft $100, it is prone to high infection rates because it will fail easily in the hands of those who are not security conscious. Pro pen-testers have proven that time and again. So people are most definitely better off with any of the better 3rd party security products. The only ones who can really benefit from Windows Defender and Windows security are geeks that tweak - and that is essentially turning Windows security into a wholly default-deny protection model. Even then there's a bunch of problems that I have seen in my tests. I remember years ago people saying "Look, Windows security is getting so awesome... now we have Microsoft Security Essentials." It's no different today. Everyone wants to tout way-overcomplicated "improvements." Even more telling is the fact that Windows Defender ATP is not doing very well in the marketplace. There just hasn't been a whole lot of interest in the product for the same reasons... IT Pros don't wanna deal with a product that has little to no documentation, that is expensive, is a pain to use, etc. I just find it curious that people will defend Microsoft when the security it puts onto Home versions is a half-baked version of protection clearly meant for IT Pro E5 level. Windows Home security is a mere afterthought. So Microsoft isn't doing any favors for any home user - because the very people who need the full featured security the most don't get it. And even if they did get it, they couldn't use it because Microsoft doesn't focus on usability nor documentation. What a mess. And it's all Microsoft's doing. [/QUOTE]

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