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<blockquote data-quote="oldschool" data-source="post: 778447" data-attributes="member: 71262"><p>Just who is the "average" user? This is the problem. I have a casual friend who has McAphee through Staples (she must have paid the really over-inflated price!). She bit on the MS Tech Support scam - hook, line and sinker. Doesn't have a clue! So, did a paid full security suite save her? NO. Staples service saved her - at a premium price! I have a brother in law who is no computer geek, but is smart (He successfully owned and operated a 1 man machine shop for years.) He slapped Avast Free and MBAM Free on his machine and he and his wife have never had a problem. So, who is the average user?</p><p></p><p>I know a lot people who use the Avast/MBAM combo, but some of them <strong><em>have been advised to use this combo</em></strong>. I also know people who use Sophos Free (not highly regarded by some here on MT!) and no infections. So, most smart people who are not geeks <em><strong>may</strong></em> prefer 3rd party AVs but this does not preclude smart non-geek users from using WD and staying completely secure. No matter what the facts are about WD and MS, most infections are user-dependent. We even might say many smart non-geeks see and rely a lot of reviews for Avast. So we are back to the question: Is the "average user" the smart, non-geek person or the completely clue-less, ignorant person?</p><p></p><p>My point is that the smart non-geek may simply not be aware that WD is available and/or improved over the years because they've been deluged with Avast/PC Mag marketing and, more importantly, that there is no "average user". For the truly ignorant there may be no solution at all.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="oldschool, post: 778447, member: 71262"] Just who is the "average" user? This is the problem. I have a casual friend who has McAphee through Staples (she must have paid the really over-inflated price!). She bit on the MS Tech Support scam - hook, line and sinker. Doesn't have a clue! So, did a paid full security suite save her? NO. Staples service saved her - at a premium price! I have a brother in law who is no computer geek, but is smart (He successfully owned and operated a 1 man machine shop for years.) He slapped Avast Free and MBAM Free on his machine and he and his wife have never had a problem. So, who is the average user? I know a lot people who use the Avast/MBAM combo, but some of them [B][I]have been advised to use this combo[/I][/B]. I also know people who use Sophos Free (not highly regarded by some here on MT!) and no infections. So, most smart people who are not geeks [I][B]may[/B][/I] prefer 3rd party AVs but this does not preclude smart non-geek users from using WD and staying completely secure. No matter what the facts are about WD and MS, most infections are user-dependent. We even might say many smart non-geeks see and rely a lot of reviews for Avast. So we are back to the question: Is the "average user" the smart, non-geek person or the completely clue-less, ignorant person? My point is that the smart non-geek may simply not be aware that WD is available and/or improved over the years because they've been deluged with Avast/PC Mag marketing and, more importantly, that there is no "average user". For the truly ignorant there may be no solution at all. [/QUOTE]
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