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The truth about Windows Defender on Windows 10 (Home & Pro).
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<blockquote data-quote="DeepWeb" data-source="post: 778494" data-attributes="member: 63811"><p>I disagree with the idea of the average Windows user here. The average Windows users are far more knowledgeable than you guys like to admit. Just look at the numbers. We are not the only ones who use a 3rd party AV. Anyone who has used Windows for at least 1 generation knows that they need an antivirus and that they need to be careful of what to click on the Internet and that they can install useful browser extensions that block ads and improve privacy. Many do understand terminology and they will google what they don't know and they know that they can tweak Windows settings but many gave up because Windows 10 is too complicated. It's not that they are not tech savvy, Windows 10 is a UX and UI disaster compared to something like Windows 7.</p><p></p><p>Microsoft uses non-standard terminology just look at Windows Defender which is really Microsoft Security Essentials renamed. But then they renamed it again to Windows Defender Antivirus. Things that have universal terms in Unix and Linux have different terms in Windows for no reason. The Windows environment does not allow people to fully understand how their computers work with all of its hidden folders, some things are here, other things are there. Unless you grew up with Windows you will never understand it. It makes zero sense so most people will give up on tweaking Windows. They do care about using their computers securely but they don't know where to start and that's Microsoft's fault. Just look at Exclusions in Windows Defender. No other menu has ever bothered me so much in my life. Is it enough to just type the program.exe or do I have to list the entire file path? No clue until this day and from the way WD behaved neither way seem to work. The entire UI/UX makes Windows Defender feel like an afterthought like "oh yeah, we also did that but nobody cares" And Windows Firewall looks like from Vista era.</p><p></p><p>tl:dr Average user knows that they need protection but Windows 10's UX/UI is too inconsistent to be understandable and user interfaces of software do not make the effort to explain themselves to the user anymore.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DeepWeb, post: 778494, member: 63811"] I disagree with the idea of the average Windows user here. The average Windows users are far more knowledgeable than you guys like to admit. Just look at the numbers. We are not the only ones who use a 3rd party AV. Anyone who has used Windows for at least 1 generation knows that they need an antivirus and that they need to be careful of what to click on the Internet and that they can install useful browser extensions that block ads and improve privacy. Many do understand terminology and they will google what they don't know and they know that they can tweak Windows settings but many gave up because Windows 10 is too complicated. It's not that they are not tech savvy, Windows 10 is a UX and UI disaster compared to something like Windows 7. Microsoft uses non-standard terminology just look at Windows Defender which is really Microsoft Security Essentials renamed. But then they renamed it again to Windows Defender Antivirus. Things that have universal terms in Unix and Linux have different terms in Windows for no reason. The Windows environment does not allow people to fully understand how their computers work with all of its hidden folders, some things are here, other things are there. Unless you grew up with Windows you will never understand it. It makes zero sense so most people will give up on tweaking Windows. They do care about using their computers securely but they don't know where to start and that's Microsoft's fault. Just look at Exclusions in Windows Defender. No other menu has ever bothered me so much in my life. Is it enough to just type the program.exe or do I have to list the entire file path? No clue until this day and from the way WD behaved neither way seem to work. The entire UI/UX makes Windows Defender feel like an afterthought like "oh yeah, we also did that but nobody cares" And Windows Firewall looks like from Vista era. tl:dr Average user knows that they need protection but Windows 10's UX/UI is too inconsistent to be understandable and user interfaces of software do not make the effort to explain themselves to the user anymore. [/QUOTE]
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