UK: Investigatory Powers Bill passed - ISP logging without a warrant imminent

[Exterminator]

On November 16, 2016, the House of Lords approved the final version of the Investigatory Powers Bill – better known as the ‘Snooper’s Charter'. The only remaining step before it becomes law is for the Queen to sign off on the bill. The new law means that ISPs must store more extensive Internet Connection Records (ICRs) by default, without the need for a warrant.

Until now, ISPs needed to see a warrant before logging what customers do online, and would only log for up to 12 months. With the introduction of the new law, ISPs will have to log everyone’s usage and record more extensive data including account reference, a source [Internet Protocol] and port address, a destination IP and a port address and a time and date. ISPs could be asked to collect even more data, if possible, but it would only be accessible with an interception warrant.

Jim Killock, from the Open Rights Group, said:

“The IP Bill will put into statute the powers and capabilities revealed by Snowden as well as increasing surveillance by the police and other government departments. There will continue to be a lack of privacy protections for international data sharing arrangements with the US. Parliament has also failed to address the implications of the technical integration of GCHQ and the NSA.

While parliamentarians have failed to limit these powers, the Courts may succeed. A ruling by the Court of Justice of the European Union, expected next year, may mean that parts of the Bill are unlawful and need to be amended. ORG and others will continue to fight this draconian law.”

Once the data is collected, there will be many entities which will be able to access the data, including the Department for Transport, Department of Health, HMRC, NHS, Food Standards Agency, and the Gambling Commission. Additionally, the law will allow security services to hack electronic devices and put legal pressure on services that offer secure communication software to hand over communications data.

There are some people protected from this law, although it’s not clear how their internet traffic is distinguished. MPs, doctors, and lawyers can only be targeted by the law with the express permission of the Prime Minister. Trade union activities are also not a sufficient reason for the law to be used.

As a result of this law, the cost of storing this vast amount of data could be handed down to the customers, which would mean we'd literally be paying to be spied on!

Source: ISP Review

 

[_CyberGhosT_]

I have been applauding the UK as they take innovative steps
securing their cyber infrastructure over the past year.
They are at a point now where they need to start
applying the brakes.
They are going a little too far imho.

 

[Fritz]

It really amazes me how the British people seem to be o.k. with all of this. At least I can't remember hearing any noise about their civil rights being stripped at an alarming pace. Legal gun owners can't store their own weapons at home, carrying a pocket knife will get you a fine and whatever you do online gets synched and shared within the Five Eyes if not even beyond. As much as think about telling your foreign chef he served your shish kebap cold and you're up for inciting hate speech. Free journalism? Get ready for some agency to walk in on you demanding any data, source or imminent destruction thereof.

What a doubleplusgreat world we live in.

 

[Vipersd]

Welcome to 1984! Feel free to tell the state everything.

 

[Ink]

Further information (scroll down): The UK is about to wield unprecedented surveillance powers — here’s what it means

 

[ElectricSheep]

These are ALL the Government agencies that will be able to access someone's internet history in the UK under this spying charter
The list of organisations that will be allowed to view your entire internet history

 

[Fritz]

Department for Work and Pensions? The Food Agency? Oh boy.

We are running around naked and nobody gives a hoot, just because they can't see or touch the consequences immediately. Humankind is such a dumb excuse of a supposedly intelligent life form. Hitler and Stalin would have had a field day with all that knowledge.

 

[ElectricSheep]

Department for Work and Pensions? The Food Agency? Oh boy.

We are running around naked and nobody gives a hoot, just because they can't see or touch the consequences immediately. Humankind is such a dumb excuse of a supposedly intelligent life form. Hitler and Stalin would have had a field day with all that knowledge.

Yep, and imagine what the DWP will do with that kind of information, abuse it probably. I've been a victim of their heavy handed practices so not a good omen...

 

[Fritz]

Oh, abusing it is the only thing that makes sense. We'll be amazed what they come up with.

Unemployment benefits? Amazon history clearly shows an alternative source of income. Denied.
Sick-pay? Your uncle just thanked you for helping him move on Facebook. Not sick. Denied.
Google Maps shows you managed London-Manchester in under 3 hours? Fine already printed and sent off.

Welcome to The New World™!

 

[Exterminator]

100,000+ Sign Petition to Repeal Investigatory Powers Bill

 

[Vipersd]

People need to understand that they have the right to protect their privacy and property. Behavior like I'm not doing anything wrong so I don't care about this kind of law is costing us our freedom.

Presumption of innocence is being thwarted all over the world ...

 

[Tony Cole]

About time, GCHQ, MI5, MI6 should have all the powers available to stop such heinous crimes currently going on throughout the world.

These agencies do not care about the general public, I doubt they sit there looking through all the emails, would take them years. I would imagine they have enough to do, without messing around. The UK have seen first hand what terrorists can do, from 9/11, 7/7 bombings and the disgusting beheading of an innocent solider, also gangs of peadophile's using the dark net and Skype to commit disgusting abuse, and remain uncaught must be stopped.

It just amazes me that people would rather worry about GCHQ reading their emails than catching these sick people before they commit these acts.

 

[Vipersd]

You are wrong about email access by security services it is all automated and search is based on key frases. You are not going to stop terorism if you base everything on electronic surveilance. There are other factors but they are not for this forum.

 

[Tony Cole]

Reason here, how many emails are sent daily, do you honestly believe the security services can view them - no! So yes they do use key phrase searches - my friend works at GCHQ, so key words are essential.

 

[Axelrod Sven]

It really amazes me how the British people seem to be o.k. with all of this

You'll also be amazed at the Propaganda - or silent attitude taken by the British Media in general, except some vague references to the jobs of James Bonds of MI-5 hunting down terrorists and saving the good guys getting easier. Also, even though Brexit was a majority in most British constituencies... British MP's are railing against Brexit. So voices, petitions and whatnot aside... the MP's just won't listen to the people.

 

[Tony Cole]

True, I voted for Brexit and I think Theresa May will go ahead, if we had remained they remain camp would be happy, but the people wanted out (thank god), Scotland can't afford to run the country, we pay their debt stupid SNP are worse than Trump.

 

[Axelrod Sven]

True, I voted for Brexit and I think Theresa May will go ahead, if we had remained they remain camp would be happy, but the people wanted out (thank god), Scotland can't afford to run the country, we pay their debt stupid SNP are worse than Trump.

You still have a EU-biased and British-people unaccountable Supreme Court to deal with before Article 50 mate, or quite possibly General Elections - I'm a frequent reader of the Daily Mail and the Telegraph. All the same, best of luck to you all.

 

[Tony Cole]

MPs wouldn't dare go against the people, as for the courts the referendum was legal and people knew what they were voting for, typical now they are moaning and acting like children, the EU is crap and it's failed big-time!

 

[Handsome Recluse]

About time, GCHQ, MI5, MI6 should have all the powers available to stop such heinous crimes currently going on throughout the world.

These agencies do not care about the general public, I doubt they sit there looking through all the emails, would take them years. I would imagine they have enough to do, without messing around. The UK have seen first hand what terrorists can do, from 9/11, 7/7 bombings and the disgusting beheading of an innocent solider, also gangs of peadophile's using the dark net and Skype to commit disgusting abuse, and remain uncaught must be stopped.

It just amazes me that people would rather worry about GCHQ reading their emails than catching these sick people before they commit these acts.

I doubt civilian crimes would outsmart government crimes. The Amendments were designed to be a check against the government because they're smart enough to know how the government abuses stuff. Clearly, privacy is good enough to be amendment material. Especially with how it interacts with free speech. Besides, if you want to stop terrorrists, stop immigration since crimes per capita are overrepresented in immigrants and terrorists are overrepresented in Muslims. Also, this lowly criminals, unlike the government, are not smart enough to cover their tracks so can be stopped by simple investigative powers.

 

[Tony Cole]

Tor cannot be hacked, so they can out-smart the security services.