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<blockquote data-quote="MacDefender" data-source="post: 916205" data-attributes="member: 83059"><p>Things I like about the company:</p><p></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Long history of excellence in the AV industry, strong track record of evolving over time (switching engines, inventing new techniques)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Great privacy track record -- they both talk the right talk and they also have fairly well written and clear policies about what they collect.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Mikko (<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikko_Hyppönen" target="_blank">Mikko Hyppönen - Wikipedia</a>) is certainly an established name in this industry and I like seeing him as part of the product</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The product doesn't try to shove services down your throat. These days so many AV software feel like they're constantly advertising services to you or trying to sneak auto-renewal onto you. F-Secure doesn't.</li> </ul><p>Things I like about the product:</p><p></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">I really like multi-engine approaches. I strongly believe you get better protection out of not relying on any single vendor or strategy. These days Avira signatures (especially with Avira Protection Cloud) are great and DeepGuard is still one of the top behavior blockers in the industry.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">It's super lightweight</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Strong recent track record -- from the Malware Hub testing to standardized AV testing performance, it's been doing really well since switching from BitDefender</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Really good zero-day protection -- it's been one of the top products in my "DIY" testing where I write some POC malware based off techniques I see in real world samples.</li> </ul><p>Things I don't like about the product:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">A lot of the protection comes from executing files, if you just do a static scan the detection rate is okay but not #1. I would never use F-Secure as a 2nd opinion scanner or totally static "emergency kit". (Execution passes through a few more layers of online reputation checking, not just DeepGuard behavior detection)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">It's not good at disinfection -- it will block/delete specific files it detects. It isn't able to completely disinfect an already infected system.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Not having an "Internet Security" suite (outbound firewall blocking, IPS/IDS, always-on networking filter) is a minus in protection compared to full blown suites, but with that said, a lot of us have seen more bugs/performance hit coming from those kinds of suites.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Great pricing comes by maybe once or twice a year. It's not like Norton or BitDefender where it feels like you can constantly find excellent deals on the product.</li> </ul><p></p><p>Things that I think are overblown:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">False Positives -- So far most of the false positives have been from esoteric/uncommon software. I think a lot of those are not situations the average user is likely to run into, and those less-confident detections (DeepGuard, suspicious / PUA, etc) directly have a button in their notification to allow the app.</li> </ul></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MacDefender, post: 916205, member: 83059"] Things I like about the company: [LIST] [*]Long history of excellence in the AV industry, strong track record of evolving over time (switching engines, inventing new techniques) [*]Great privacy track record -- they both talk the right talk and they also have fairly well written and clear policies about what they collect. [*]Mikko ([URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikko_Hyppönen"]Mikko Hyppönen - Wikipedia[/URL]) is certainly an established name in this industry and I like seeing him as part of the product [*]The product doesn't try to shove services down your throat. These days so many AV software feel like they're constantly advertising services to you or trying to sneak auto-renewal onto you. F-Secure doesn't. [/LIST] Things I like about the product: [LIST] [*]I really like multi-engine approaches. I strongly believe you get better protection out of not relying on any single vendor or strategy. These days Avira signatures (especially with Avira Protection Cloud) are great and DeepGuard is still one of the top behavior blockers in the industry. [*]It's super lightweight [*]Strong recent track record -- from the Malware Hub testing to standardized AV testing performance, it's been doing really well since switching from BitDefender [*]Really good zero-day protection -- it's been one of the top products in my "DIY" testing where I write some POC malware based off techniques I see in real world samples. [/LIST] Things I don't like about the product: [LIST] [*]A lot of the protection comes from executing files, if you just do a static scan the detection rate is okay but not #1. I would never use F-Secure as a 2nd opinion scanner or totally static "emergency kit". (Execution passes through a few more layers of online reputation checking, not just DeepGuard behavior detection) [*]It's not good at disinfection -- it will block/delete specific files it detects. It isn't able to completely disinfect an already infected system. [*]Not having an "Internet Security" suite (outbound firewall blocking, IPS/IDS, always-on networking filter) is a minus in protection compared to full blown suites, but with that said, a lot of us have seen more bugs/performance hit coming from those kinds of suites. [*]Great pricing comes by maybe once or twice a year. It's not like Norton or BitDefender where it feels like you can constantly find excellent deals on the product. [/LIST] Things that I think are overblown: [LIST] [*]False Positives -- So far most of the false positives have been from esoteric/uncommon software. I think a lot of those are not situations the average user is likely to run into, and those less-confident detections (DeepGuard, suspicious / PUA, etc) directly have a button in their notification to allow the app. [/LIST] [/QUOTE]
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