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<blockquote data-quote="danb" data-source="post: 883658" data-attributes="member: 62850">I have talked to some of these labs throughout the years and you guys are aware of the sneaky things that might or might not happen <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite110" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" />.You guys might or might not be aware, but what some labs do is to offer public testing for free, which is the actual final test.&nbsp; But before the public test is performed, they offer a round or two of private testing that costs $40,000 or so, which is simply paying for the answers before the test.&nbsp; Same samples and everything.This is not exactly unethical because one can argue that it helps the vendors improve their product... which is the entire goal anyway.&nbsp; I am not saying that I agree with this, I am just explaining the reasoning behind this method.&nbsp; Either way, it certainly does improve efficacy... I am just not sure by how much.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="danb, post: 883658, member: 62850"] I have talked to some of these labs throughout the years and you guys are aware of the sneaky things that might or might not happen ;). You guys might or might not be aware, but what some labs do is to offer public testing for free, which is the actual final test. But before the public test is performed, they offer a round or two of private testing that costs $40,000 or so, which is simply paying for the answers before the test. Same samples and everything. This is not exactly unethical because one can argue that it helps the vendors improve their product... which is the entire goal anyway. I am not saying that I agree with this, I am just explaining the reasoning behind this method. Either way, it certainly does improve efficacy... I am just not sure by how much. [/QUOTE]

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