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<blockquote data-quote="Deleted Member 308817310" data-source="post: 821993" data-attributes="member: 80647"><p>Microsoft develop the Windows APIs and they have access to all of the material which for everyone else would be undocumented and unsafe to use. Microsoft own Windows which permits them that privilege. Due to this, not only do they already have the advantage of hardware isolation which Sandboxie lacks, but they have the advantage of maintaining compatibility with other people's software and even controlling influence among developers on how they develop their software.</p><p></p><p>These are the facts:</p><p>1. Sandboxie heavily relies on undocumented techniques.</p><p>2. Sandboxie messes with the memory of processes belonging to other people's software.</p><p>3. Sandboxie's design is still incredibly influenced by rootkit techniques from rootkit books written in the late 1990s and early 2000s.</p><p></p><p>This isn't about what your favorite sandbox is or whether it has worked great for you and other people on this forum. I do not need to send you technical write-up papers of how Sandboxie works or the same for Microsoft's technology. I have nothing to prove to you. You are more than capable of doing your own homework by researching all of this.</p><p></p><p>The time it took you to write that big wall of text would have been sufficient timing for you to have educated yourself on how Microsoft's sandbox technology works and work out the differences compared to Sandboxie. Get out your notepad and pen and start taking notes, because I'm not going to do your work for you.</p><p></p><p></p><p>It's mainly due to compatibility and the fact that Microsoft do not have to be as dirty as most other AVs since they own Windows and thus can make changes at their own discretion whilst doing things which would be unsafe for others to do. Microsoft also own the special anti-virus APIs which other vendors want their hands on to cut down on the unstable things they might be doing, making things even more advantageous for Microsoft.</p><p></p><p>Read some tweets by people from the Mozilla Firefox team, Google Project Zero team, etc. and you'll start to see a consistent pattern of Windows Defender being favored compared to third-party vendors.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Deleted Member 308817310, post: 821993, member: 80647"] Microsoft develop the Windows APIs and they have access to all of the material which for everyone else would be undocumented and unsafe to use. Microsoft own Windows which permits them that privilege. Due to this, not only do they already have the advantage of hardware isolation which Sandboxie lacks, but they have the advantage of maintaining compatibility with other people's software and even controlling influence among developers on how they develop their software. These are the facts: 1. Sandboxie heavily relies on undocumented techniques. 2. Sandboxie messes with the memory of processes belonging to other people's software. 3. Sandboxie's design is still incredibly influenced by rootkit techniques from rootkit books written in the late 1990s and early 2000s. This isn't about what your favorite sandbox is or whether it has worked great for you and other people on this forum. I do not need to send you technical write-up papers of how Sandboxie works or the same for Microsoft's technology. I have nothing to prove to you. You are more than capable of doing your own homework by researching all of this. The time it took you to write that big wall of text would have been sufficient timing for you to have educated yourself on how Microsoft's sandbox technology works and work out the differences compared to Sandboxie. Get out your notepad and pen and start taking notes, because I'm not going to do your work for you. It's mainly due to compatibility and the fact that Microsoft do not have to be as dirty as most other AVs since they own Windows and thus can make changes at their own discretion whilst doing things which would be unsafe for others to do. Microsoft also own the special anti-virus APIs which other vendors want their hands on to cut down on the unstable things they might be doing, making things even more advantageous for Microsoft. Read some tweets by people from the Mozilla Firefox team, Google Project Zero team, etc. and you'll start to see a consistent pattern of Windows Defender being favored compared to third-party vendors. [/QUOTE]
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