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<blockquote data-quote="WiseVector" data-source="post: 790640" data-attributes="member: 76851"><p>Hi [USER=56957]@In2an3_PpG[/USER] ,</p><p></p><p>Thank you for sharing your opinion with us, but there are some points that I cannot understand.</p><p></p><p>1. Why do you not recommend even uninstall a security product because it just uses API HOOK technology? It's more reasonable to evaluate a product by the effects. Actually, API hooking is a well-known technology that has been used over 20 years. Microsoft also has Detours library for API hooking.</p><p></p><p>2. There are so many malware use API hooking, but AV vendors can't? Sounds like put AV in a zoo but leave malware in the wild.<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite110" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>3. I agree that the process creation callback is the proper way to perform pre-execution scanning. However, as I said before, we need to monitor more APIs in the future. In the next version of WiseVector, API Call Sequence is a very important factor for the AI-based Behavior detection. Without it, the AI may make wrong decisions, so monitoring a large number of API calls is required.</p><p></p><p>4. We have a different understanding of prevention. My understanding is to stop the malicious program before attackers gain access to the system. If the malware get killed by WiseVector when they are trying to install a Keylogger, I think it is a successful prevention.</p><p></p><p>5. We make the decisions by ourselves 100%. In the previous conversion, you said it was incorrect to quote Comodo to support our ideas, by now you used Windows Defender and other wide-spread vendors to support your ideas....:emoji_cold_sweat: </p><p></p><p>Anyway, thanks for your advice. In the future we may use document ways as you said to perform pre-execution scanning. But we still need to monitor a lot of APIs to achieve AI-based behavior detection, if you have better idea to monitor APIs without doing API hooking, please let me know.</p><p></p><p>Regards</p><p>Eason</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="WiseVector, post: 790640, member: 76851"] Hi [USER=56957]@In2an3_PpG[/USER] , Thank you for sharing your opinion with us, but there are some points that I cannot understand. 1. Why do you not recommend even uninstall a security product because it just uses API HOOK technology? It's more reasonable to evaluate a product by the effects. Actually, API hooking is a well-known technology that has been used over 20 years. Microsoft also has Detours library for API hooking. 2. There are so many malware use API hooking, but AV vendors can't? Sounds like put AV in a zoo but leave malware in the wild.;) 3. I agree that the process creation callback is the proper way to perform pre-execution scanning. However, as I said before, we need to monitor more APIs in the future. In the next version of WiseVector, API Call Sequence is a very important factor for the AI-based Behavior detection. Without it, the AI may make wrong decisions, so monitoring a large number of API calls is required. 4. We have a different understanding of prevention. My understanding is to stop the malicious program before attackers gain access to the system. If the malware get killed by WiseVector when they are trying to install a Keylogger, I think it is a successful prevention. 5. We make the decisions by ourselves 100%. In the previous conversion, you said it was incorrect to quote Comodo to support our ideas, by now you used Windows Defender and other wide-spread vendors to support your ideas....:emoji_cold_sweat: Anyway, thanks for your advice. In the future we may use document ways as you said to perform pre-execution scanning. But we still need to monitor a lot of APIs to achieve AI-based behavior detection, if you have better idea to monitor APIs without doing API hooking, please let me know. Regards Eason [/QUOTE]
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