Admin of Dark Web Child Pornography Website "Playpen" Found Guilty

[LabZero]

While I do think people who watch or produce child porn are terrible people, I do not hate all pedophiles. Remember it is a mental illness and you can't hate someone just for that. Just want to make sure people know who deserves jail time and who deserves help. I feel bad for those with the illness, I hear it's not curable according to those who tried to get help.

You don't hate all pedophiles right?
Then you know how to distinguish those "mental sick" and "healthy", Ok great!
Then please explain your "theory" to the parents of those children!
Strange people around but I I am not referring to pedophiles now...

 

[Logethica]

This is a thread that I have been reluctant to post on as there can be no other subject that will fuel a higher emotionally charged reaction than this,and rightfully so.
I post now because I feel that @LukeNukesEm is making logical points that are being unfairly overlooked.
Wearing an emotional hat can often make one aware of a problem,but that problem can only be solved by swapping that emotional hat for a logical one.
Yes,these crimes against children make me extremely angry.....Do we not want to attempt to prevent these crimes from happening in the first place,or would we rather just concentrate on finding the most painful punishment for those that commit them?
There are still some poorly educated parts of the World who believe that what or whom we are sexually attracted to is a matter of choice.This has been proven time and time again to be incorrect.
Lets say for example that a teenager finds that they are attracted to those younger than themselves.Where would that person go to seek help?.. Who could they confide in?
In a World where the admittance of this attraction is itself unacceptable the person in question has an increased likelihood of going on to commit such crimes...in this sense society is perpetuating the very crimes that it wishes to eradicate.
IMO to refute the "mental illness" angle and imply that crimes against Children are all deliberately calculated choices is illogical,and shows a poor understanding of both logic and psychology.

 

[LabZero]

This is a thread that I have been reluctant to post on as there can be no other subject that will fuel a higher emotionally charged reaction than this,and rightfully so.
I post now because I feel that @LukeNukesEm is making logical points that are being unfairly overlooked.
Wearing an emotional hat can often make one aware of a problem,but that problem can only be solved by swapping that emotional hat for a logical one.
Yes,these crimes against children make me extremely angry.....Do we not want to attempt to prevent these crimes from happening in the first place,or would we rather just concentrate on finding the most painful punishment for those that commit them?
There are still some poorly educated parts of the World who believe that what or whom we are sexually attracted to is a matter of choice.This has been proven time and time again to be incorrect.
Lets say for example that a teenager finds that they are attracted to those younger than themselves.Where would that person go to seek help?.. Who could they confide in?
In a World where the admittance of this attraction is itself unacceptable the person in question has an increased likelihood of going on to commit such crimes...in this sense society is perpetuating the very crimes that it wishes to eradicate.
IMO to refute the "mental illness" angle and imply that crimes against Children are all deliberately calculated choices is illogical,and shows a poor understanding of both logic and psychology.

Mental illness is a strategy used too many times and in my country, too many criminals have avoided punishment for this.
Thanks for your input, and you can call me illogical or out of psychology, no problem.

 

[Logethica]

Mental illness is a strategy used too many times and in my country, too many criminals have avoided punishment for this.
Thanks for your input, and you can call me illogical or out of psychology, no problem.

There is a difference between using "Mental illness" as a "Legal tool" and using it to help people..
A gun can be used to defend as well as attack.

In a legal sense I agree that verdicts of "diminished responsibility" or "Insanity" are often exploited in order to lessen a clients punishment or to acquit them completely... I disagree with this exploitation too.IMO there is no Country with a logical Justice system...
...but without society having embraced the problems & ramifications of Mental illnesses & Trauma there would be no such things as Alcoholics Anonymous ,drug-rehab ,The PTSD diagnosis of War Veterans, help/support for victims of domestic violence,or many other benefits that come from understanding the human mind and it's fragility.

 

[LukeNukesEm]

Mental illness is a strategy used too many times and in my country, too many criminals have avoided punishment for this.
Thanks for your input, and you can call me illogical or out of psychology, no problem.

While that is true, I am not saying those who watch or traffic child porn can be defended because it's a illness. I was just saying don't hate anyone who's a pedophile, believe it or not a lot of them are non offending. If I had such an illness I wouldn't tell the world but I don't want it to be a secret. If I were to tell someone I were a pedophile I would make it clear I am non-offending. It shouldn't make someone less of a person because of something they can't control. Again I am not defending people who watch child porn, Because it is usually involuntary and even if the kid wanted too, I still disagree because they're of course too young to make that decision.

 

[ElectricSheep]

While that is true, I am not saying those who watch or traffic child porn can be defended because it's a illness. I was just saying don't hate anyone who's a pedophile, believe it or not a lot of them are non offending. If I had such an illness I wouldn't tell the world but I don't want it to be a secret. If I were to tell someone I were a pedophile I would make it clear I am non-offending. It shouldn't make someone less of a person because of something they can't control. Again I am not defending people who watch child porn, Because it is usually involuntary and even if the kid wanted too, I still disagree because they're of course too young to make that decision.

SO how does that explain the sick bas*^%&s who kidnap and kill kids because of their sick obsession with them??

 

[LukeNukesEm]

SO how does that explain the sick bas*^%&s who kidnap and kill kids because of their sick obsession with them??

Again those are offending pedophiles. That's the equivalent to people who take people older than 18 and rape them on camera. The only difference is kids. Just because you have a attraction to kids doesn't mean you automatically kidnap them. While pedophiles do tend to have more of a obsession for sex, but if you have a heart and a brain you wouldn't do such terrible things. You would work around it.

 

[ElectricSheep]

I'm out of this one. I'm lost for words... And before I get mad and say something I regret

 

[exCode]

This is all really fked up.

 

[LukeNukesEm]

I'm out of this one. I'm lost for words... And before I get mad and say something I regret

I am simply being logical. Put this into your perspective, using your logic, gay people rape more than straight people. See how that is stupid? It's not the sexuality its the person. You are using the word pedophile for the word predator. Hope you understand what I am saying.

 

[LabZero]

Someone here condemns those who look at child porn but does not condemn all pedophiles, because pedophilia would be a mental disorder, a perversion.
But those who watch child porn are not pedophiles?!! Of course, he is a pedophile, and depraved! This is my logic because I don't watch that horror!
The only logic I see is to be on the side of the innocent victims of this tragedy: the children.

IMO this thread could also be closed, we are in an illogical loop.

 

[_CyberGhosT_]

LabZero And my pal EletricSheep I agree.
There is no excuse for the sick ass bastards that try to justify touching children sexually,
or watch videos that promote such behavior. I do not nor will I ever concede that they are poor sick
fellas, they need shot in my opinion. Making excuses for them only encourages that behavior and
way of thinking.

 

[LabZero]

LabZero And my pal EletricSheep I agree.
There is no excuse for the sick ass bastards that try to justify touching children sexually,
or watch videos that promote such behavior. I do not nor will I ever concede that they are poor sick
fellas, they need shot in my opinion. Making excuses for them only encourages that behavior and
way of thinking.

Totally agree!

 

[frogboy]

Someone here condemns those who look at child porn but does not condemn all pedophiles, because pedophilia would be a mental disorder, a perversion.
But those who watch child porn are not pedophiles?!! Of course, he is a pedophile, and depraved! This is my logic because I don't watch that horror!
The only logic I see is to be on the side of the innocent victims of this tragedy: the children.

IMO this thread could also be closed, we are in an illogical loop.

This sums it up well.

 

[ElectricSheep]

@_CyberGhosT_ and @LabZero
I agree with your points. You can't justify these creatures in any way at all, logically or not.

 

[jamescv7]

Well pornography in majority sectors/area is definitely prohibited and not a must because of bringing different perspective thinking of people which will lead for such worst scenario.

Now in speaking of pedophiles, definitely no one should agree for this; many laws are already incorporated to protect women and child from safety.

 

[Tony Cole]

I would execute him, anyone who does that to a child doesn't deserve to live! But then he will have loads of fun in prison, inmates love people who abuse children, especially those who are in for life.

 

[ElectricSheep]

I would execute him, anyone who does that to a child doesn't deserve to live! But then he will have loads of fun in prison, inmates love people who abuse children, especially those who are in for life.

Those nonces deserve what they get... Boiling water with lots of sugar in thrown over them, a bit of face rearrangement, etc...

 

[Malware Man]

I am of course against child porn. People who flim that stuff are sick and disgusted and it turns my stomach.

However, what really annoys me is the Canadian justice system. In case you guys are not aware it is ILLEGAL in Canada for someone to be sentenced to death wether it's by lethal injections, electrical chair, hanging, etc. I really wish they would bring it back.

For once, I actually like something about the USA and they are doing something better than us. I hate how my country won't make it legal again.


Last week some disgusting man in my city raped a little girl. She was mybe 11 years old. He was 41. Her injuries were so bad she couldn't walk for days or even get washed. She had her insides damaged and bones crushed and it's a miracle she is still alive.

What makes me even more sick of this situation is that the man only got 5 years of jail time for doing this crime. Our justice system sucks. I hate it so much and I wish we had the American one.