AV-Comparatives.org Releases New Retrospective Test Results

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Nobody mocks PCAV, we just observe is low score on THIS test. Next time when he will score high we will applause its succcess.


Offtopic: what is wrong with you and Comodo, have personnal issues?
 

Ink

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Maximus is defensive of the current software he uses. We know this, because it's a repeat in history.

AVC Results don't affect my choice in AV software, so I have nothing to add or say.
 

Dieselman

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Mar 26, 2011
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I have no problems with CIS. If you actually pay attention to my replies I say over and over its a great suite. But only for advanced users. The problem isn't with CIS. The problem is that most CIS users think its "da bomb". Just about everyone who uses CIS think its the best and only security out there. And the Comodo team with Melih on top have brain washed everyone into this whole "default/deny" way of life. That whole mentality is my issue. And every time CIS scores low the first thing Comodo does is say "You did the test wrong". Just look at the MRG findings. Maybe if Comodo cared more about there users and less about thinking they are #1 they could be a better company overall.

Comodo should learn from there mistakes rather then finding faults in the tests. The Comodo team reminds me of a little kid who throws a fit when he doesn't get his way.
 
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Earth said:
Maximus is defensive of the current software he uses. We know this, because it's a repeat in history.

yes, understandable. We defend what we like.

AVC Results don't affect my choice in AV software, so I have nothing to add or say.

Yes it didn't/can't test my favorite ones :D
 

Dieselman

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Earth said:
Maximus is defensive of the current software he uses. We know this, because it's a repeat in history.

AVC Results don't affect my choice in AV software, so I have nothing to add or say.

No offense taken. But when someone does not fully understand how a cloud av works there is nothing wrong with a bit of education. I also took the time to provide different scenarios. Take time to read the entire thread prior to commenting. Thanks.

Earth..............You dont even use real time security so how can you have any insight to this?
 
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Maximus said:
Earth..............You dont even use real time security so how can you have any insight to this?

He used before, he just decide he dont need one. Not wearing a weapon doesn't means you ignore how to use it.
 

Dieselman

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Also keep in mind that Panda Cloud score a 41.4% WITHOUT an internet connection. Its not like it didn't detect anything.
 

bogdan

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The test is purely a heuristics test. They install the product on a virtual machine and they leave it as it is, without updates or internet connection for a period of time (12 Aug 2011 - 20 Aug 2011). During this period of time they gather new samples. So when they test the detection rate the product doesn't have signatures for the new malware and relies on heuristics to achieve a good score. Another fact worth mentioning is that the on-demand test and the retrospective test should be read together (The document even states that the retrospective test is the second part of the on-demand test). So if a product does well in the on-demand test and not so well in the retrospective test the over-all score could still be favorable (from the pdf: "Users should not be afraid if the products have, in a retrospective test, low percentages. If the antivirus software is always kept up to date, it may be able to detect more samples"). Panda Cloud probably relies on detecting new malware as quickly as possible and since it is a cloud av there shouldn't be a delay until the users benefit from the new signatures. However the retrospective test clearly shows that there is room for improvement when it comes to Panda's heuristics and hopefully they'll improve future versions of the product. Don't forget that the Pro version also has Behavioral analysis of running processes... maybe that helps with the detection of new malware... I don't know, the behavioral analysis didn't help avast! too much in this test.
 

tina

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Qihoo also using Avira engine ?. http://www.marbridgeconsulting.com/marbridgedaily/2011-06-20/article/47115/qihoo_360_partners_with_german_anti_virus_firm
 

jamescv7

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Well on having partnership its either the signatures or engines was used. Thus boosting the detection rates even in retrospective.
 

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