Kaspersky blocking some safe sites. I reported these sites, but 4 days later they are not unblocked. Just removed Kaspersky and back to MD.
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I used NovaBench Free, and found Avast free to have slightly better scores than Kaspersky Free or Standard, but Kaspersky Standard feels faster.
Using the same benchmark, I also found Bitdefender free to be slower, similar to Windows Defender. However, sometimes, things load faster with Defender, but later things like file browsing slow down.
For false positives, I think Avast and Kaspersky tend to do that, for both files (even open-source) and sites. It's easier to de-quarantine or unblock in Avast; for Kaspersky, I have to go to the safe browser settings and add the site as an exclusion, or exclude an application or folders containing them.
As for McAfee and others, I think there are higher costs, e.g., initially promo prices, and then subscription goes up significantly for the second year onward. Given that, if you have only a few machines and have money to spend, then this should not be much of a problem. Otherwise, you'll be paying a lot. With that, you need to look for places where you can buy licenses cheap, and then use free VPN if needed to activate them. Also, you preferably want accounts where you can stack licenses or something like that.
For free versions, you have to make adjustments, and see who's using the machines and what time you have available to act as technical support:
If users don't visit a lot of sites, then stick to Windows Defender. If you like spending time having to find out what to undo if something goes wrong, then try hardening it.
If you want set-and-forget and free, plus no popups, then try Bitdefender free. But you have to figure out what to do about anti-ransomware remediation and the firewall. The same goes for Avira free and web protection.
If you have more time to help users with popup ads, undoing sites that are blocked, etc., try Avast or AVG free.
If you have some money to spend, but not a lot, then Kaspersky Standard, but you'll have to buy licenses elsewhere and activate them using a free VPN. And if you have users who install and/or use various software, then you'll have to be around to help them know what to remove from quarantine, etc.
If you have a lot of money to spend, then McAfee, Avast, etc. You'll preferably have to configure whatever you choose to be in game and silent mode, leaving technical support time for you to figure out what the security program quarantined or blocked from accessing the net and see if you can make it work again. If users don't add new software, etc., this problem should go away in time.
Using the same benchmark, I also found Bitdefender free to be slower, similar to Windows Defender. However, sometimes, things load faster with Defender, but later things like file browsing slow down.
For false positives, I think Avast and Kaspersky tend to do that, for both files (even open-source) and sites. It's easier to de-quarantine or unblock in Avast; for Kaspersky, I have to go to the safe browser settings and add the site as an exclusion, or exclude an application or folders containing them.
As for McAfee and others, I think there are higher costs, e.g., initially promo prices, and then subscription goes up significantly for the second year onward. Given that, if you have only a few machines and have money to spend, then this should not be much of a problem. Otherwise, you'll be paying a lot. With that, you need to look for places where you can buy licenses cheap, and then use free VPN if needed to activate them. Also, you preferably want accounts where you can stack licenses or something like that.
For free versions, you have to make adjustments, and see who's using the machines and what time you have available to act as technical support:
If users don't visit a lot of sites, then stick to Windows Defender. If you like spending time having to find out what to undo if something goes wrong, then try hardening it.
If you want set-and-forget and free, plus no popups, then try Bitdefender free. But you have to figure out what to do about anti-ransomware remediation and the firewall. The same goes for Avira free and web protection.
If you have more time to help users with popup ads, undoing sites that are blocked, etc., try Avast or AVG free.
If you have some money to spend, but not a lot, then Kaspersky Standard, but you'll have to buy licenses elsewhere and activate them using a free VPN. And if you have users who install and/or use various software, then you'll have to be around to help them know what to remove from quarantine, etc.
If you have a lot of money to spend, then McAfee, Avast, etc. You'll preferably have to configure whatever you choose to be in game and silent mode, leaving technical support time for you to figure out what the security program quarantined or blocked from accessing the net and see if you can make it work again. If users don't add new software, etc., this problem should go away in time.
Its very simple to go kinguin or g2a, wich are usually cheapest and buy 3x 3-4 usd licenses 1 year 5 devices as example and then make account on mcafees site, stack them and use it like that. Never connect card details or any billing info there so you dont have to mess with autobilling
Im personally avoiding having online bank account ( means i cant do online purchases with my visa or authenticate online at all ) but theres a catch that i can live more worry free. I just tend to use kinguin/g2a as example because paysafecard is a paying method, no need for online bank account.
On topic: it seems OP doesnt want to use kaspersky so McAfee probably fits for him best
The most efficient amongst the EU AVs, sorry to burst your bubble, but these are AVG, Avast, Avira and GData. Then you can place Sophos somewhere after them.
Eset can only clean the dust after them.
Eset’s behavioural monitoring is just like Panda TruPrevent — rumoured to exist, but nobody ever saw it in action. That’s why Eset is light.
It’s easy to be light when you are not doing much.
It is true regarding behavioral detection (although Avast, AVG, Avira, and GData one is not great too), but regarding pre-execution detection, ESET is the best, and Avira the worst; did not test GData before to tell.
Thanks for the tip.
I didn't know about g2a, but I took a look at it now, and the licence prices are indeed much cheaper, especially for McAfee.
On what basis are you slapping these conclusions that Avira is the worst? Avira has a ton of settings and components and a solid bulk of detections (not to say almost all as till recently they didn’t have behavioural blocking) is produced pre-execution.
When the Avast and AVG behavioural blocking, (which was developed in the early 2000s by Sana Security) was blocking malware without signatures, Eset was mediocre and the bottom of the bottom on every test.
And it’s still one heavily based on signatures antivirus. The Augur machine learning, the cloud detonation (whatever the name was), it’s all there for beauty and to register presence. That’s why they rely on features from the early 2000s (HIPS and others).
Eset is not and will never be neither Bitdefender, nor any of the Gen Digital products.
I have test all of them, except for GData, for pre-execution detection; ranking is ESET, followed by Avast-AVG, followed by Avira.
Bitdefender had less pre-execution detection than ESET, Avast, and AVG, only beating Avira; looks relying more and more on post-execution behavioral detection.
Your tests are too minimal to draw any meaningful conclusions. The Avira and Bitdefender pre-execution detection abilities (as well as Sophos, G Data and others) have stood the test of time. Historically, Eset has rarely been up to the standard on tests. Others were.
I played 5 min with Eset some time ago and the system was encrypted by Netwalker.
AVC tests for many years do not divide the detection as pre-execution/post execution. Avira, GData, Bitdefender, Avast for years have been nailing the AVC tests.
And since you mentioned AVC (I didn’t) the 2 solutions that come out as absolute top on the AVC tests are Bitdefender — high detection online and offline and Avast. Avast also nails the anti-phishing tests. Bitdefender has been product of the year many times.
Sophos doesn’t even participate in these tests, Sophos pre-execution detection is not amazing on non-PE files, they rely on HitmanPro.Alert to intercept fileless attacks as they run.
Eset has never really shone on the AVC tests with anything else, other than performance. And now McAfee took this away from them too. And unlike Eset, McAfee’s behavioural blocking exists not just as references and names in the settings/help files.
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Again from the same testing body that you brought up (I didn’t).
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I first encountered Avira in 2002, when a friend of mine asked me to take a look at his computer, which he said was behaving strangely, with folders appearing out of nowhere and crashes occurring. My friend came over to my house and I went to check out his computer. When I got there, I saw that he had K installed. In short, this friend was receiving hundreds of emails from a company that sold pneumatic cylinders, which he worked with. Now, imagine most of the emails he received had attachments, including executable files, doc, xls and other file formats from the company, which were supposed to update the company's programme that he was using at the time to record sales made by this company, which specialised in industrial automation and where he was a salesman. In the meantime, his computer ended up being infected by malware, the name of which I don't remember, even with K installed. The intriguing thing was that K detected the malware and deleted it and moved it to quarantine, asking me to restart the machine, but even so, when I restarted and logged in, the malware replicated and K was unable to disinfect it. I believe the memory was infected. At the time, I didn't have a USB stick, memory card or any of the things we have today. I only had CDs and an internal hard drive that I used in my backpack, so there was nothing I could do. That's when I thought, went online, downloaded Avira, uninstalled Kaspersky, and installed Avira. I did a full scan of his PC, and Avira detected not just one but several pieces of malware and neutralised them all. After that, his PC was back to normal. Avira had indeed cleaned the PC, and after that, with Avira installed on his PC, I left his house at dawn. I couldn't format it because of the files and programmes he had, and it was from an Italian company, which made it even more difficult to get the company's programme from far away. One day he called me at home and asked me what I had done to his computer. I said his computer had malware and the AV had disinfected his PC, and he said, "Did you remove Kasperksy?" I said yes, K failed to disinfect the malware from his machine, so leave Avira running on his machine, it seems that Avira solved his problems. Finally, one day, he told me, "After you installed that AV, I never had any more problems. I receive emails, and every now and then a pop-up would come up and block and clean the PC." I said, "You receive a lot of emails from a lot of people, and many of those attachments are infected. and sometimes people don't even know the company you work for. If Avira is detecting, blocking and preventing your machine from being infected, that's a good sign that it's doing its job. That was my first experience with Avira, which I discovered in 2002, and I can say that it saved my skin that day.
This occured 23 years ago, unless you declares Avira is better than Kaspersky.I first encountered Avira in 2002, when a friend of mine asked me to take a look at his computer, which he said was behaving strangely, with folders appearing out of nowhere and crashes occurring. My friend came over to my house and I went to check out his computer. When I got there, I saw that he had K installed. In short, this friend was receiving hundreds of emails from a company that sold pneumatic cylinders, which he worked with. Now, imagine most of the emails he received had attachments, including executable files, doc, xls and other file formats from the company, which were supposed to update the company's programme that he was using at the time to record sales made by this company, which specialised in industrial automation and where he was a salesman. In the meantime, his computer ended up being infected by malware, the name of which I don't remember, even with K installed. The intriguing thing was that K detected the malware and deleted it and moved it to quarantine, asking me to restart the machine, but even so, when I restarted and logged in, the malware replicated and K was unable to disinfect it. I believe the memory was infected. At the time, I didn't have a USB stick, memory card or any of the things we have today. I only had CDs and an internal hard drive that I used in my backpack, so there was nothing I could do. That's when I thought, went online, downloaded Avira, uninstalled Kaspersky, and installed Avira. I did a full scan of his PC, and Avira detected not just one but several pieces of malware and neutralised them all. After that, his PC was back to normal. Avira had indeed cleaned the PC, and after that, with Avira installed on his PC, I left his house at dawn. I couldn't format it because of the files and programmes he had, and it was from an Italian company, which made it even more difficult to get the company's programme from far away. One day he called me at home and asked me what I had done to his computer. I said his computer had malware and the AV had disinfected his PC, and he said, "Did you remove Kasperksy?" I said yes, K failed to disinfect the malware from his machine, so leave Avira running on his machine, it seems that Avira solved his problems. Finally, one day, he told me, "After you installed that AV, I never had any more problems. I receive emails, and every now and then a pop-up would come up and block and clean the PC." I said, "You receive a lot of emails from a lot of people, and many of those attachments are infected. and sometimes people don't even know the company you work for. If Avira is detecting, blocking and preventing your machine from being infected, that's a good sign that it's doing its job. That was my first experience with Avira, which I discovered in 2002, and I can say that it saved my skin that day.
Even with HIPS, ESET was unable to contain Netwalker?
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