Serious Discussion Bitdefender Antivirus won't performing update check just after computer startup.

[anirbandutta01]

I am aware of the Bitdefender's automatic updates every hour, but I thought it would be a nice feature to have Bitdefender update its definitions, immediately on startup, after being shut down for the night, automatically.
I, manually, update the definitions every time after computer startup. I still have to wait 1 hour after the device has started for the update to take place. It doesn't have such function so that when the system starts or when an internet connection is detected it is updated automatically. I previously used ESET and the function is present on ESET and many other companies. Having this feature would ensure our computers are protected from overnight threats the moment we start our computers in the morning or after long time startup

Already reported to Bitdefender but they replied it's might be another issue.

Any idea? What's the issue ? Thanks in advance for your help.

 

[Bot]

It seems like Bitdefender currently doesn't support immediate updates upon startup. The issue isn't with your system but with the software itself. You might want to consider providing feedback to Bitdefender about this feature. In the meantime, you could try scheduling updates at a specific time that aligns with your startup time.

 

[Trident]

Bitdefender does check for updates on startup. Why do you believe that it doesn’t?
Furthermore, Bitdefender provides protection through a variety of methods that don’t require hourly, or even daily updating such as:

• Generic detections
• Heuristics
• Malicious website blocking
• Cloud-powered detections
• Behavioural monitoring, blocking and anti-exploit

 

[SeriousHoax]

Turn off fast-startup on your system if it is on. Bitdefender always on my main machine in the past and currently on the VM auto-updates signatures within 10 mins of system startup. Kaspersky auto-updates after 15-17 minutes. Microsoft Defender auto-updates after 3-5 minutes. Only ESET starts updating immediately as soon as the lock screen is shown. No one else immediately updates AFAIK. ESET is very signature dependent, so they need to hurry to have the latest database and perform a scan.
But Bitdefender should update within 10 mins which is acceptable IMO.

 

[anirbandutta01]

Turn off fast-startup on your system if it is on. Bitdefender always on my main machine in the past and currently on the VM auto-updates signatures within 10 mins of system startup. Kaspersky auto-updates after 15-17 minutes. Microsoft Defender auto-updates after 3-5 minutes. Only ESET starts updating immediately as soon as the lock screen is shown. No one else immediately updates AFAIK. ESET is very signature dependent, so they need to hurry to have the latest database and perform a scan.
But Bitdefender should update within 10 mins which is acceptable IMO.

Okay let me check and reply you later.

 

[Jonny Quest]

As was also stated in that BD thread, be sure you have Profiles disabled, as that can prolong the update frequency. Otherwise, it was pretty much "unresolved" but only that BD would "look for" updates when the PC restarts.

But the rest of BD shields are still protecting you, like the AV and especially the Advanced Threat Defense. So what are you concerned about that is going to happen if downloaded signatures aren't installed immediately? As long as you're connecter to the internet, you're fine. I have mine set to update every two hours.

What is Bitdefender Advanced Threat Defense?​

Advanced Threat Defense is Bitdefender’s innovative take on detecting ransomware and zero-day threats in real time using advanced heuristic methods. This method is different from traditional malware detection, which involves identifying malware using the virus signature database.

 

[Pat MacKnife]

Bitdefender does check for updates on startup. Why do you believe that it doesn’t?
Furthermore, Bitdefender provides protection through a variety of methods that don’t require hourly, or even daily updating such as:

• Generic detections
• Heuristics
• Malicious website blocking
• Cloud-powered detections
• Behavioural monitoring, blocking and anti-exploit

When i use BD free it almost never update after computer start, only after 1 hour online. When you turn off fast start up it does update within 10 minutes, but i find it stupid because don't wanna turn off fast startup.
Okay i know i have a fast SSD but computer not always start very good with fast startup disabled (hanging to login screen)

 

[SeriousHoax]

When i use BD free it almost never update after computer start, only after 1 hour online. When you turn off fast start up it does update within 10 minutes, but i find it stupid because don't wanna turn off fast startup

Ok now we can be sure that Bitdefender also has a fault on this issue. I agree that it should update within 10 mins even if fast-startup is enabled which the default on Windows. But turning off fast-startup has many benefits. Fast-startup = Hibernate basically. I also see in your config that you have a very fast SSD.

 

[lokamoka820]

When i use BD free it almost never update after computer start, only after 1 hour online. When you turn off fast start up it does update within 10 minutes, but i find it stupid because don't wanna turn off fast startup

Ok now we can be sure that Bitdefender also has a fault on this issue. I agree that it should update within 10 mins even if fast-startup is enabled which the default on Windows. But turning off fast-startup has many benefits. Fast-startup = Hibernate basically. I also see in your config that you have a very fast SSD.

I know the subject here is Bitdefender, but is fast startup still available? I don't have it for a long time now.

 

[Jonny Quest]

I know the subject here is Bitdefender, but is fast startup still available? I don't have it for a long time now.
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Are you not running Windows in Admin mode? Maybe someone else knows or has an idea?

 

[lokamoka820]

Are you not running Windows in Admin mode? Maybe someone else knows or has an idea?
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I only have one user account, and it is admin.

 

[Jonny Quest]

I only have one user account, and it is admin.

Strange that it's not showing. And I know you're an advanced user, so maybe someone else will have a answer?

 

[lokamoka820]

Strange that it's not showing. And I know you're an advanced user, so maybe someone else will have a answer?

I think this is what more advanced users tell before about using registry cleaners, "you will have problems sooner or later".

 

[SeriousHoax]

I know the subject here is Bitdefender, but is fast startup still available? I don't have it for a long time now.
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Same for me. It's not there. I've fast-startup disabled yet registry shows that it's enabled. There are no hibernate file in C drive. It's a bit strange. I'm also on an one-user admin account.
@lokamoka820 & @Jonny Quest Is it Windows 11? Do you have Memory integrity enabled (yes for me) and what's the security software on your system if you don't mind sharing.

 

[lokamoka820]

Same for me. It's not there. I've fast-startup disabled yet registry shows that it's enabled. There are no hibernate file in C drive. It's a bit strange. I'm also on an one-user admin account.
@lokamoka820 & @Jonny Quest Is it Windows 11? Do you have Memory integrity enabled (yes for me) and what's the security software on your system if you don't mind sharing.

So it is not just me.
I'm on Windows 11 home 23H2, Memory integrity enabled, and I use Microsoft Defender.

 

[SeriousHoax]

So it is not just me.
I'm on Windows 11 home 23H2, Memory integrity enabled, and I use Microsoft Defender.

Similar here. What value do you get if you paste this in Terminal/Powershell? 0 or 1?

(GP "HKLM:\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Power")."HiberbootEnabled"

 

[Marko :)]

Windows 11 Pro 23H2; I still have it.

I think this is what more advanced users tell before about using registry cleaners, "you will have problems sooner or later".

Exactly the reason why I'm against that crap. These programs don't really block anything because it's impossible to stop telemetry in Windows, other than in Enterprise and Education versions. In fact, all these "get rid of telemetry" programs do is cause problems.

 

[Pat MacKnife]

Similar here. What value do you get if you paste this in Terminal/Powershell? 0 or 1?

I'm on Windows 11 home 23H2 too, still have it here.
Core isolation here is disabled (can't enable that) ?
Avira Free security

 

[Jonny Quest]

Same for me. It's not there. I've fast-startup disabled yet registry shows that it's enabled. There are no hibernate file in C drive. It's a bit strange. I'm also on an one-user admin account.
@lokamoka820 & @Jonny Quest Is it Windows 11? Do you have Memory integrity enabled (yes for me) and what's the security software on your system if you don't mind sharing.

Yes, Windows 11 Pro. SeriousHoax, I also run BD Total Security on one of my PC's, to keep up with that software, and the forum.

 

[Jonny Quest]

Windows 11 Pro 23H2; I still have it.
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Exactly the reason why I'm against that crap. These programs don't really block anything because it's impossible to stop telemetry in Windows, other than in Enterprise and Education versions. In fact, all these "get rid of telemetry" programs do is cause problems.

That's why I'll only disable those settings (whatever I can) in Windows itself, even if I have to reenable the settings after a Windows update.