Serious Discussion Bitdefender Antivirus won't performing update check just after computer startup.

[Marko :)]

That's why I'll only disable those settings (whatever I can) in Windows itself, even if I have to reenable the settings after a Windows update.

Honestly, I wouldn't even touch those programs. They modify registry without telling user what exactly program modified and that's how it messes up entire Windows installation. The same you can achieve through settings and manually using registry, or if you're afraid to do that, using Group Policy Editor.

And those programs won't help you "protect" settings so WU won't enable them again. WU has more power than those programs and as such can do whatever they want.

 

[lyldz]

use this cmd with administrator privileges
powercfg.exe /hibernate on
powercfg.exe /hibernate off

 

[lokamoka820]

What value do you get if you paste this in Terminal/Powershell? 0 or 1?

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Exactly the reason why I'm against that crap. These programs don't really block anything because it's impossible to stop telemetry in Windows, other than in Enterprise and Education versions. In fact, all these "get rid of telemetry" programs do is cause problems.

I think you mean programs like "O&O ShutUp10++", I was talking about registry cleaners.
Anyway, do you recommend any 3rd party maintenance tools, or you just use the built-in tools?

 

[Marko :)]

I think you mean programs like "O&O ShutUp10++", I was talking about registry cleaners.

Yes. I'm talking about software which claims to stop data collection. It's more likely those cause fast startup missing than registry cleaners. But both are known to do damage to Windows installation.

Anyway, do you recommend any 3rd party maintenance tools, or you just use the built-in tools?

Honestly, I don't use any at all. I don't see a reason to use one because ever since Windows 10, it does the maintenance automatically. Disk Cleanup is more than enough for everything. The only place where some maintenance is needed is the web browser, but usually, built-in solution for cleaning history, cache and cookies is more than adequate as other like CCleaner can cause issues.

 

[SeriousHoax]

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I see, same here. Anyway, it's not an issue as I never actually turn it on from Power settings anyway. I needed hibernation option a couple of times last month to not stop an ongoing work on my PC and I always use
powercfg.exe /hibernate on
powercfg.exe /hibernate off
to turn it on and off again as shared by user @lyldz above.
O&O Shutup10++ doesn't touch power settings or any similar registry settings so we should not do unnecessary speculation about a very reputable app. It's at least helpful at preventing Windows from making useless DNS queries every few minutes thus saving some DNS query limit on my free NextDNS plan. Don't know about other registry cleaners though as I agree they are mostly useless, but I use HiBit's and Ccleaner's registry cleaner after uninstalling an app/game but don't use all the options. I know how to handle them but will not recommend it to others.

 

[anirbandutta01]

UPDATE: Today I got a call from Bitdefender India support team and as per their statement, the software doesn't have such function to perform update check just after system turn on. It'll check update hourly but no update will be performed just after system start. Another thing I've noticed that there's no option to export settings configuration file.

 

[Jonny Quest]

UPDATE: Today I got a call from Bitdefender India support team and as per their statement, the software doesn't have such function to perform update check just after system turn on. It'll check update hourly but no update will be performed just after system start. Another thing I've noticed that there's no option to export settings configuration file.

There have been many posts and this thread regarding an export ability. So far, all to no avail, but "it will be passed on to the developers to decide", with no posts of absolute commitment on BD's part.

Backup Bitdefender Settings (VERY OLD IDEA, BUT NEVER IMPLEMENTED)

It would be VERY, VERY, VERY nice to have an option to backup/export ALL Bitdefender settings.

community.bitdefender.com

 

[anirbandutta01]

UPDATE:-

Today I open computer & after 10 minutes BitDefender Antivirus performs update checking automatically & got update. But instead of next 1 hour checking it got update after next 2 hours. Automatically update checking is enabled & update cheking interval is set to 1 hour. Fast boot is disabled on my system. I think it checks for update in every 1 hour but in my case no update was available in first hour and even it didn't got update in next update checking time. Then after 2:30 hrs I manually checked for update & it shown that "your product is up to date" & notification shown that last update completed 2 hs ago. I think in my case, it checked for update in every hour but as updates was not available in 2 hrs so no update logs shown for every hour.

 

[anirbandutta01]

There have been many posts and this thread regarding an export ability. So far, all to no avail, but "it will be passed on to the developers to decide", with no posts of absolute commitment on BD's part.

Backup Bitdefender Settings (VERY OLD IDEA, BUT NEVER IMPLEMENTED)

It would be VERY, VERY, VERY nice to have an option to backup/export ALL Bitdefender settings.

community.bitdefender.com

Yes it'll be better if configuration export & import feature will available in next product upgrade.

 

[SeriousHoax]

UPDATE:-

Good to know that your issue is solved after turning off fast-startup. Bitdefender checks for updates every hour but that doesn't mean there will be updates available every hour. They don't usually receive updates every hour similar to other products. There will be more delay in between. It can update maybe 4-6 times a day, or maybe even 8 times on certain days. Some AV products release signature updates every 4 hours some updates far less often. As it was said before, BD has many other layers always protecting you.

There have been many posts and this thread regarding an export ability. So far, all to no avail, but "it will be passed on to the developers to decide", with no posts of absolute commitment on BD's part.

Backup Bitdefender Settings (VERY OLD IDEA, BUT NEVER IMPLEMENTED)

It would be VERY, VERY, VERY nice to have an option to backup/export ALL Bitdefender settings.

community.bitdefender.com

If I remember correctly, even in Bitdefender GravityZone there is no way to export settings while many other products give you that option. For whatever reason they don't like the idea.

 

[lokamoka820]

I see, same here. Anyway, it's not an issue as I never actually turn it on from Power settings anyway. I needed hibernation option a couple of times last month to not stop an ongoing work on my PC and I always use
powercfg.exe /hibernate on
powercfg.exe /hibernate off
to turn it on and off again as shared by user @lyldz above.
O&O Shutup10++ doesn't touch power settings or any similar registry settings so we should not do unnecessary speculation about a very reputable app. It's at least helpful at preventing Windows from making useless DNS queries every few minutes thus saving some DNS query limit on my free NextDNS plan. Don't know about other registry cleaners though as I agree they are mostly useless, but I use HiBit's and Ccleaner's registry cleaner after uninstalling an app/game but don't use all the options. I know how to handle them but will not recommend it to others.

And finally I found the reason behind disabling Hibernate on my system, and it was PrivaZer advanced settings, it recommends disabling Hibernate by default when you run it the first time, so if you tried PrivaZer before even without cleaning the system, it automatically disables Hibernate by just using it.

 

[SpiderWeb]

I don't know about Windows, but I can confirm Bitdefender on macOS updates all definitions on startup because I receive a notification every time.

 

[Pat MacKnife]

I gave BD free a spin for 3 days and indeed now it updates on startup, but it didnt recieve much updates during the day, some times 7 a 8 hours between a signature update so thats about 2 updates a day

 

[Divine_Barakah]

I gave BD free a spin for 3 days and indeed now it updates on startup, but it didnt recieve much updates during the day, some times 7 a 8 hours between a signature update so thats about 2 updates a day

Maybe it is depending more on the Cloud nowadays?

 

[andytan]

I gave BD free a spin for 3 days and indeed now it updates on startup, but it didnt recieve much updates during the day, some times 7 a 8 hours between a signature update so thats about 2 updates a day

I've noticed when using Emsisoft & GDATA they were receiving anywhere between 3 - 6 updates daily tied to their BD engines though overall I'd say the average is probably closer to 4. That is similar to what I recall seeing when using BTS previously.

 

[lokamoka820]

I've noticed when using Emsisoft & GDATA they were receiving anywhere between 3 - 6 updates daily tied to their BD engines though overall I'd say the average is probably closer to 4. That is similar to what I recall seeing when using BTS previously.

Is there a reason to use antivirus that rely on BD engine over BD itself?

 

[Divine_Barakah]

Is there a reason to use antivirus that rely on BD engine over BD itself?

One of the reasons is, Emsisoft and G data are not bloated with features you don't need. BD installs VPN even in the Antivirus Plus version and if you uninstall it, it gets reinstalled with BD updates. G Data is much cheaper than BD.

 

[roger_m]

Is there a reason to use antivirus that rely on BD engine over BD itself?

Another reason, is that in some cases other Bitdefender based antiviruses will be lighter than Bitdefender itself and sometimes they will be lighter.