New Update Brave planning to introduce subscription for customizing the browser?

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I'm surprised that no one posted about this, seems like a big deal for Brave users.

Apparently, Brave will soon start offering Brave Origin, a subscription to customize the web browser. In order to disable telemetry, sponsored images, Wallet, VPN, Leo, Rewards and a lot of other "features", you'll soon have to pay a "modest" fee.

Brendan Eich announced this on Twitter:


Then downplayed the situation:


Additionally, the changes are ready and the code is on GitHub.
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Add Brave Origin Settings UI by bbondy · Pull Request #31677 · brave/brave-core

Description Resolves brave/brave-browser#47461 Adds Settings UI for the Brave Origin page. There is a new toggle control that works off of policies. When it is toggled, it uses the Brave Origin Ha...
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Implement Brave Origin paywall on Android by SergeyZhukovsky · Pull Request #30554 · brave/brave-core

Implements Brave origin paywall screen and handles subscription purchases on Google Play Store. There is no entry point to it currently, it will be done in the feature PRs Resolves: brave/brave-bro...
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What do you think about this?
 
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Well, if the web browser starts doing things like this, it's getting immediately uninstalled from my PC. Some will say "they are a company and they have to pay their employees"... and I agree. But I don't think it's right to lure users and then force them to pay a subscription on a product that is 100% built on top of someone else's work.

We shall also not forget that Brave had a fair amount of controversies surrounding them which included replacing website ads with their own (to earn money), collecting donations in the name of YouTubers without their permission, injecting their own referral URLs when browsing various websites and the worst offender for me... installing a VPN client without user knowledge and ability to uninstall it.

I think that company like this doesn't deserve anyone's money. Especially when they already have bunch of other ways through with they finance "development" of the browser.
 
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People who like to use stock Brave browser can still keep using it and those that complain about bloat, crypto and AI can opt for Brave Origin. Wonderful concept and will also shut up people who say they will like to pay to remove the bloat, these people can vote with their wallet now.
 
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Marko :) said:
What do you think about this?
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PrivacyGuides recommends a few browsers; the ones I consider usable for me are Firefox, Brave, and Arkenfox. I have no compelling need to move to Arkenfox, but at one point in the past, I did switch to Chrome because Firefox wasn't keeping up with speed improvements. If Firefox were to die (which still seems unlikely, despite the guy BE thinking that it would happen), I would probably switch to the standard Brave browser, turning off all the features I don't need when allowed.

Brave Origin is a way for the company to earn income; I thought Brave's methods for generating revenue have been questionable, but this new scheme isn't any worse.
 
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Marko :) said:
Well, if the web browser starts doing things like this, it's getting immediately uninstalled from my PC. Some will say "they are a company and they have to pay their employees"... and I agree. But I don't think it's right to lure users and then force them to pay a subscription on a product that is 100% built on top of someone else's work.

We shall also not forget that Brave had a fair amount of controversies surrounding them which included replacing website ads with their own (to earn money), collecting donations in the name of YouTubers without their permission, injecting their own referral URLs when browsing various websites and the worst offender for me... installing a VPN client without user knowledge and ability to uninstall it.

I think that company like this doesn't deserve anyone's money. Especially when they already have bunch of other ways through with they finance "development" of the browser.
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You're right about Brave and the controversies about it, but generally I like the idea and I hope more browsers adopt it.
 
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Divergent said:
I'd say those users have suffered enough being Ginny pigs of the product. If anyone deserves anything it is the company that deserves to suffer for treating others this way.

Personally I would stick to chrome and tell this company to take a flying leap.
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And although Brave has other subscription-based services, it seems that Brave Origin is going to be a standalone subscription. So this is not about revenue as they already have other paid services.

I believe they can see how many user disable the "bloatware" included in the browser, so they decided to charge users who want to disable that functionality.
 
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TairikuOkami said:
I got my suspicion years ago, when Brave removed flag disabling rewards for real. What to expect from Google's subsidiary. Brave = Chrome with free Youtube for now.
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It's was clear from the start how Google gave better treatment to Brave than to any other browser out there. I mean, I have it installed on my PC as a second browser, and use it as primary browser on Android. The moment I get paywall, I'm uninstalling it everywhere and switching to alternative.
Sampei.Nihira said:
I don't use Brave and have no idea if the "features" is intolerable for its users.
Perhaps not, otherwise they would replace Brave with another browser.
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Let's just say you have bunch of crypto features bundled with the browser and even after you disable them, they are still present in the browser UI and you can't get rid of them completely. This just confirms why you can't get rid of them.
Virtuoso said:
People who like to use stock Brave browser can still keep using it and those that complain about bloat, crypto and AI can opt for Brave Origin. Wonderful concept and will also shut up people who say they will like to pay to remove the bloat, these people can vote with their wallet now.
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Not vote by wallet. Rather than vote with the installation. I think not installing and using their services hurts them more as using it without paying.
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PrivacyGuides recommends a few browsers; the ones I consider usable for me are Firefox, Brave, and Arkenfox. I have no compelling need to move to Arkenfox, but at one point in the past, I did switch to Chrome because Firefox wasn't keeping up with speed improvements. If Firefox were to die (which still seems unlikely, despite the guy BE thinking that it would happen), I would probably switch to the standard Brave browser, turning off all the features I don't need when allowed.

Brave Origin is a way for the company to earn income; I thought Brave's methods for generating revenue have been questionable, but this new scheme isn't any worse.
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Arkenfox isn't a web browser. It's set of user.js scripts for Firefox to make it faster and more private, nothing else.
Divine_Barakah said:
You're right about Brave and the controversies about it, but generally I like the idea and I hope more browsers adopt it.
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Divine_Barakah said:
If they introduce the subscription, I believe they will make it harder for none subscribers to disable features they do not need.
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You're joking, right? Why would you want a basic ability to customize the web browser to be taken from you? This is literally a ransom. Lure you with free, then ask you to pay. No wonder streaming services are constantly limiting features for cheaper plans and moving them in more expensive plans because there are always the people who will upgrade the package and pay the price.

Not to mention, the only thing they did develop for the browser was Brave Rewards, Brave Wallet, Brave News and Leo AI.
Browser itself they built using free code from Chromium. Brave Shields was built using free uBlock Origin code, VPN is product from a different company called Guardian, and Leo AI was under fire for selling copyrighted data for AI training.

And they expect me to pay for what exactly? In fact, I think they should put ad blocking under Brave Origin. Let's see how many people will stick with Brave then. 🤡
Parkinsond said:
Brave CEO has just admitted that crypto, AI, and VPN elements are liability; to get rid of, you have to pay.
If not gonna pay, you deserve to suffer.
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They realized that messing with crypto scam means if the crypto goes down, they go down as well.
 
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Marko :) said:
You're joking, right? Why would you want a basic ability to customize the web browser to be taken from you? This is literally a ransom. Lure you with free, then ask you to pay. No wonder streaming services are constantly limiting features for cheaper plans and moving them in more expensive plans because they are always the people who will upgrade the package and pay the price.

Not to mention, the only thing they did develop for the browser was Brave Rewards, Brave Wallet, Brave News and Leo AI.
Browser itself they built using free code from Chromium. Brave Shields was built using free uBlock Origin code, VPN is product from a different company called Guardian, and Leo AI was literally trained on stolen copyrighted data.

And they expect me to pay for what exactly? In fact, I think they should put ad blocking under Brave Origin. Let's see how many people will stick with Brave then. 🤡
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I am not talking about only the ability ro customise browser. It would be great to pay to disable telemetry and full customisation of the browser not necessarily Brace
 
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Virtuoso said:
Brave founder responds to Reddit misinformation about Brave Origin:

piunikaweb.com

Brave founder clears air on Origin browser amid misinformation surge

Brave CEO Brendan Eich clarifies Brave Origin details after Reddit confusion. The stripped-down browser is free on Linux, one-time purchase elsewhere.
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Yeah, this looks to me like damage control. On multiple occasions Brave announced something, people saw the source code and complained for them to suddenly change the decision.
Sooner or later this will appear in Brave, I have no doubts.

Btw he literally said TANSTAAFL in his tweet.
 
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Marko :) said:
Yeah, this looks to me like damage control. On multiple occasions Brave announced something, people saw the source code and complained for them to suddenly change the decision.
Sooner or later this will appear in Brave, I have no doubts.

Btw he literally said TANSTAAFL in his tweet.
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It is good that he said TANSTAAFL, either people stay with stock Brave with bloat or they can pay for Brave Origin stripped of everything. People who are outraged with getting additional option can uninstall it, few hundred uninstalls will not effect Brave.
 
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Virtuoso said:
People who are outraged with getting additional option can uninstall it
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Technically I do not care, I use Brave only as Youtube/Google browser, it is a pretend lesser evil and more convenient, the rest of the internet is blocked. So whatever. 🤷‍♂️
 
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Virtuoso said:
It is good that he said TANSTAAFL, either people stay with stock Brave with bloat or they can pay for Brave Origin stripped of everything. People who are outraged with getting additional option can uninstall it, few hundred uninstalls will not effect Brave.
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Stock Brave with bloat.....I still don't get that. Rewards, Wallet, VPN icon, etc can be disabled or hidden. Brave, is a sweet ride for me.
 
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