Advice Request COMODO FW with NVT

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Rengar

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Hey everyone. Im was thinking a config with NVT and CFW(CS's settings).
We have 2 options here:
1) with hips ON and auto-sandbox off
2)with hips off and auto-sandbox off

Tell me guys your thoughts and suggestions :)
 
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nclr11111

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If you go with CS´s settings it´s none of above.
HIPS off and autosandbox on it should be.
Why change something that´s proven to work?

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Actually i can´t see why use NVT at all (not to say there are no reasons i have´nt found). CFW with CS`s setting does, as far as i understand, the same job as NVT!?
Add a MBR immunizer and/or optional AV if you like. Otherwise i´m pretty certain CFW configured as CS is enough for most semiexperienced users.
 
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CFW + ERP is redundant and useless, i wont use this. CFW is strong enough alone and can easily be tweaked to become better than an anti-exe. ERP will afford nothing to CFW, it even doesn't have dll/driver protection (CFW have them).

As if you have a car with a Porsche motor (CFW) then add a Volvo engine (ERP) expecting to get faster :D
 
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CFW + ERP is redundant and useless, i wont use this. CFW is strong enough alone and can easily be tweaked to become better than an anti-exe. ERP will afford nothing to CFW, it even doesn't have dll/driver protection (CFW have them).

As if you have a car with a Porsche motor (CFW) then add a Volvo engine (ERP) expecting to get faster :D

HEY!!
What´s wrong with Volvo?? :p
 
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Rengar

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is autosandbox better than hips or the opossite?
 

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is autosandbox better than hips or the opossite?
I´m not qualified to say one is better than the other. I use autosandbox and it´s working great. Used HIPS previously but think it needed to much attention. Like it the way it is now, quiet and effective. My melody!
 

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I prefer NVT ERP over comodo firewall.
It is simply designed, it does what it says, and it says what it does.
It has an easily manageable vulnerable processes list that provides significant exploit protection.
And what's more, it actually works on my system without conflicting with other security software.
Every time I try out another solution, I always come back to NVT ERP.
I find Comodo to be mysterious and unpredictable, whereas NVT ERP is like a reliable old friend who is always there when you need him. It's less glamorous, but I don't care.
 
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Using ERP alone isn't enough for actual threats, it doesn't block attacks via memory , dlls injections and drivers.
 
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Using ERP alone isn't enough for actual threats, it doesn't block attacks via memory , dlls injections and drivers.
could you provide some details on how comodo does that?

also: rogue dlls can't get on the system unless one of these two happens:
1 a malicious file executes on disk
2 a vulnerable process is exploited
ERP covers both of the above, so where is the hole in its protection?
ditto for memory attacks and drivers
 
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Using ERP alone isn't enough for actual threats, it doesn't block attacks via memory , dlls injections and drivers.
Ah, I think I understand what you mean now.
You mean that ERP is not Smart Object Blocker, which can put even dlls and drivers in a locked down state.
 

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NVT ERP does prevent applications from running files in memory. However, it does not prevent insecure loading of libraries and similar stuff.
I would say it provides partial mitigation in all those areas.

For instance, rundll32 is on the vulnerable processes list in order to prevent loading of rogue dlls.
Other items on the list will mitigate the ability to download and register dlls or drivers.

The user can populate the list to the point that it doesn't leave much room for surprises.
 

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Not necessarily. It depends on how the DLL is loaded although the developer that makes such mistakes is equally guilty in my opinion. NVT ERP is very limited compared to C HIPS anyway.
 
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Not necessarily. It depends on how the DLL is loaded although the developer that makes such mistakes is equally guilty in my opinion. NVT ERP is very limited compared to C HIPS anyway.
Indeed, COMODO is a suite with many components, as opposed to ERP, which focuses on one thing: anti-exe.
COMODO's complexity is both its strength and its downfall. If it works, there is nothing like it. And if it doesn't, nothing will frustrate you more.
 
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