ConfigureDefender utility for Windows 10

[Andy Ful]

Here is a simple VBS script to check the ASR rule related to running something via WMI:

'Using WMI Win32_Process
Set objWMIService = GetObject("winmgmts:\\.\root\cimv2")
Set objStartup = objWMIService.Get("Win32_ProcessStartup")
Set objConfig = objStartup.SpawnInstance_
objConfig.ShowWindow = 0
set process = GetObject("winmgmts:Win32_Process")
result = process.Create ("powershell_ise",null,objConfig,processid)
WScript.Quit

It should be blocked if the rule "Block process creations originating from PSExec and WMI commands" (d1e49aac-8f56-4280-b9ba-993a6d77406c) is enabled. If not blocked, then it will run the PowerShell script editor/debugger (PowerShell Integrated Scripting Environment).

 

[Azure]

Yeah, I have seen the logs myself when I used configure defender. I'm more surprised that someone in Microsoft doesn't know those rules can work in Home.

Makes me wonder how many things employees or volunteers don't know about their own product.

 

[shmu26]

Yeah, I have seen the logs myself when I used configure defender. I'm more surprised that someone in Microsoft doesn't know those rules can work in Home.

Makes me wonder how many things employees or volunteers don't know about their own product.

I doubt there is anyone working for Microsoft who knows everything about every aspect of Windows. It's just too vast and constantly changing. The experts are compartmentalized.

 

[Andy Ful]

Yeah, I have seen the logs myself when I used configure defender. I'm more surprised that someone in Microsoft doesn't know those rules can work in Home.

Makes me wonder how many things employees or volunteers don't know about their own product.

I think that he knows about Windows Home capabilities, but the article is related to Microsoft Defender ATP (paid software) which is not available on Windows Home. Technically he is not wrong, but simply not especially precise when ignoring Windows Home. The same approach is visible in MS documentation, so the only way is testing the advanced WD features on Windows Home to see how they work.

 

[Vitali Ortzi]

Does anyone know if ,
hit man pro alert anti exploit guard can surpass inbuilt windows 10 exploit guard ?

 

[Andy Ful]

Both should apply their mitigations. So, if you will apply the mitigation A by HMPA and mitigation B by Exploit Guard, then both should work. Of course, two anti-exploit solutions can sometimes produce conflicts.

 

[Vitali Ortzi]

Both should apply their mitigations. So, if you will apply the mitigation A by HMPA and mitigation B by Exploit Guard, then both should work. Of course, two anti-exploit solutions can sometimes produce conflicts.

I haven't seen good documents on hitman pro alert so i can't understand
What defenders exploit guard can defend that hitman lacks ?

 

[Andy Ful]

I haven't seen good documents on hitman pro alert so i can't understand
What defenders exploit guard can defend that hitman lacks ?

This is a good question for the developer.
There is some information on the developer website (slightly outdated):

https://dl.surfright.nl/Exploit%20Test%20Tool%20Manual.pdf

 

[Vitali Ortzi]

This is a good question for the developer.
There is some information on the developer website (slightly outdated):

https://dl.surfright.nl/Exploit%20Test%20Tool%20Manual.pdf

Thanks so much for researching the
Web!
Shame on sophos on yhe lack of documentation despite hitman pro alert being exported to intercept x endpoint protection !
Not much enterprise venders have this much lack of documentation !
Im abandoning these products unfortunately

 

[Andy Ful]

Thanks so much for researching the
Web!
Shame on sophos on yhe lack of documentation despite hitman pro alert being exported to intercept x endpoint protection !
Not much enterprise venders have this much lack of documentation !
Im abandoning these products unfortunately

This job was not done by me. I found this document in one of the posts of @Sampei Nihira, when we discussed his Windows XP config.

 

[l0rdraiden]

Is there a way to troubleshoot this? I have tried disabling the AV (trend Micro), but still doesn't work. I don't have any other security tool.

 

[Andy Ful]

Why do you use ConfigureDefender with Trend Micro installed? ConfigureDefender is useless because Windows Defender is disabled (if I correctly understand your post).

 

[l0rdraiden]

Why do you use ConfigureDefender with Trend Micro installed? ConfigureDefender is useless because Windows Defender is disabled (if I correctly understand your post).

So the exploit guard settings (not the AV ones) only apply if windows defender is enable? Is tied to WD?

 

[Andy Ful]

So the exploit guard settings (not the AV ones) only apply if windows defender is enable? Is tied to WD?

Yes. ASR rules work only with WD real-time protection enabled.

 

[oldschool]

So the exploit guard settings (not the AV ones) only apply if windows defender is enable? Is tied to WD?

Yes, but you may use exploit protection for browsers and other programs in Windows Security Center>App and browser control>Exploit protection settings. These are OS protection capabilities separate from Windows Defender.

 

[SeriousHoax]

Windows Defender has received a new program update today: KB4052623 (Version 4.18.2004.6)
Haven't found any changelog yet:

Microsoft Update Catalog

 

[Andy Ful]

Windows Defender has received a new program update today: KB4052623 (Version 4.18.2004.6)
Haven't found any changelog yet:

Microsoft Update Catalog

Strange, I have got this Windows Update KB4052623 in February (27.02.2020).
It seems that KB4052623 may update different versions (mine was 4.18.2001.10). My current version is also 4.18.2004.6, but was done via normal WD signature updates (21.04.2020) and not by Windows Updates.

 

[Pat MacKnife]

@SeriousHoax You can view like this : explorer
C drive -> programdata -> Microsoft -> windows defender -> Platform - look inside folder what latest update is.

 

[SeriousHoax]

Strange, I have got this Windows Update KB4052623 in February (27.02.2020).
It seems that KB4052623 may update different versions (mine was 4.18.2001.10). My current version is also 4.18.2004.6, but was done via normal WD signature updates (21.04.2020) and not by Windows Updates.

I noticed this too. Same KB version for both updates. My one was downloaded by signature update too.
One thing that I noticed is that, since the 4.18.2001.10 came out, after installing a new Windows, it always downloads this update before downloading any newer one's. I guess from now on after this 4.18.2004.6 update, Windows will download this one instead of the older one. This is probably their cumulative product updates for Windows Defender. Anyway, I'm just guessing this because of the same KB version.

 

[DSD27]

The CPU load option only affects scanning, not real time protection, right? WD will always be heavy on resources...