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<blockquote data-quote="Lenny_Fox" data-source="post: 932662" data-attributes="member: 82776"><p>This is not true, I have had the chance to visit AV-Comparatives during my study and the validation process of AV-comparatives samples only takes a few minutes to an hour maximum (to validate a new found example is indeed real malware). They have a honeypot network themselves and AV-comparatives works with the University of Innsbruck and an international network of professional malware hunters.</p><p></p><p>Take away.</p><p>The samples found by the AV-companies and malware hunter networks are shared (sometimes with a small delay in time), that is why it is hard to find zero-day smples which manage to pass an antivirus on a fully patched Windows10 PC when performing real world tests (using the full potential of AntiVirus solutions). This is the reason AV-companies score high, not the age of the samples. Maybe in the previous century samples needed to be old to be detected, but with current technology the (herd) detection response is also only a few minutes to an hour. Think about it: when the whole world goes digital and news spreads in seconds around the world, why would AV-companies detect new samples in the snail-mail tempo. AV-test in days and AV-comparatives in weeks (because Austria has higher mountains samples travel slower in Austria than in Germany?) <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite109" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Disclaimer</p><p>When you think I was charmed and fooled by their marketing man I have to disappoint you. AV-Comparatives does not have a marketing guy (and I am a marketeer myself, so I should recognize marketing magic). The tech guy of AV-C was explaining in detail how they separate testing environments and run tests in paralel to prevent samples being shared and giving one (earlier tested) AV and advantage over another (later tested) AV. The facts about age samples and testing and validation process were told by a customer of AV-comparatives (some one from a British consumer protection organization, that organization used AV-C for their own test reports). I checked that guy on LinkedIn so he really was from a consumer defense/interests/protection organization (I don't know the English word for it, in Dutch "consumentenbond" type of organization). I had lunch with the guy after the demo, because we both had to go back to the airport (***)</p><p></p><p>*** when you are wondering how a poor student can afford to fly home and why a marketing student visited a security company ***</p><p>The reason is that I had saved money to surprise my girlfriend for a concert of her favorite band in London. This surprise sort of clashed with my mandatory international study visits. To arrive in London in time I had to fly and did not travel back home with my study mates in a touring bus. I only selected AV-comparatives, because their office is only 15 minutes away from the Airport (and Innsbruck is a regional airport, with a relatively fast and easy check-in procedure), so I could meet in time with my girlfriend. My marketing study coach accepted my story about the security industry being a multi billion market with tech nerds doing the marketing, so a promising new market for marketing professionals.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lenny_Fox, post: 932662, member: 82776"] This is not true, I have had the chance to visit AV-Comparatives during my study and the validation process of AV-comparatives samples only takes a few minutes to an hour maximum (to validate a new found example is indeed real malware). They have a honeypot network themselves and AV-comparatives works with the University of Innsbruck and an international network of professional malware hunters. Take away. The samples found by the AV-companies and malware hunter networks are shared (sometimes with a small delay in time), that is why it is hard to find zero-day smples which manage to pass an antivirus on a fully patched Windows10 PC when performing real world tests (using the full potential of AntiVirus solutions). This is the reason AV-companies score high, not the age of the samples. Maybe in the previous century samples needed to be old to be detected, but with current technology the (herd) detection response is also only a few minutes to an hour. Think about it: when the whole world goes digital and news spreads in seconds around the world, why would AV-companies detect new samples in the snail-mail tempo. AV-test in days and AV-comparatives in weeks (because Austria has higher mountains samples travel slower in Austria than in Germany?) :) Disclaimer When you think I was charmed and fooled by their marketing man I have to disappoint you. AV-Comparatives does not have a marketing guy (and I am a marketeer myself, so I should recognize marketing magic). The tech guy of AV-C was explaining in detail how they separate testing environments and run tests in paralel to prevent samples being shared and giving one (earlier tested) AV and advantage over another (later tested) AV. The facts about age samples and testing and validation process were told by a customer of AV-comparatives (some one from a British consumer protection organization, that organization used AV-C for their own test reports). I checked that guy on LinkedIn so he really was from a consumer defense/interests/protection organization (I don't know the English word for it, in Dutch "consumentenbond" type of organization). I had lunch with the guy after the demo, because we both had to go back to the airport (***) *** when you are wondering how a poor student can afford to fly home and why a marketing student visited a security company *** The reason is that I had saved money to surprise my girlfriend for a concert of her favorite band in London. This surprise sort of clashed with my mandatory international study visits. To arrive in London in time I had to fly and did not travel back home with my study mates in a touring bus. I only selected AV-comparatives, because their office is only 15 minutes away from the Airport (and Innsbruck is a regional airport, with a relatively fast and easy check-in procedure), so I could meet in time with my girlfriend. My marketing study coach accepted my story about the security industry being a multi billion market with tech nerds doing the marketing, so a promising new market for marketing professionals. [/QUOTE]
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