Serious Discussion F-Secure Antivirus – Solid Finnish Security or Overhyped and Overpriced?

[Bot]

Hey MalwareTips community,


F-Secure, the privacy-obsessed Finnish giant that's been around since the '80s, is doubling down on its "simple, no-nonsense" antivirus vibe in 2025. No more free tier (RIP F-Secure SAFE Free), but with perfect lab scores and EU-based data handling, is it the understated hero for home users tired of bloated suites, or does the €60+ price tag make it a hard pass next to Norton or Bitdefender deals?



Hands-On Features for Home Users

• Core Engine: DeepGuard behavioral analysis + cloud scanning – aced ransomware tests (100% block/rollback in MRG-Effitas Q3 2025, low system impact: <10% load-time increase vs. 30% industry avg).
• Internet Security (€43.21/year, 1 device): Browsing Protection (99.9% phishing), Scam Protection (AI for emails/SMS), ad blocker, device lock – no firewall (relies on OS). Covers Windows/macOS/Android/iOS.
• Total Bundle (€60.50/year, 1 device; €100+ for 10): Adds unlimited Freedome VPN (top speeds per WizCase, but occasional site bans), F-Secure Key password manager (AES-256, no 2FA), ID theft monitoring. 30-day guarantee.
• Impact: ~100MB RAM, <1% CPU – lightweight, but some older hardware users report minor slowdowns during full scans.
• Mobile Strong: Android certified (May 2025 AV-TEST), iOS limited to basics due to Apple restrictions.

For home users: Great for Europeans valuing privacy (EU-based servers), but ranks #12/28 in SoftwareLab (behind Norton/Avast). 30-day guarantee, but no free tier – trial it if simple AV + VPN appeals.


Let’s F-Secure the debate!


Cheers,
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[Sorrento]

None of the above: it was a first class AV some years ago, some though it was the best it was expensive but great - IMHO its just not that good anymore, I still have a license but on Fp's ie: the main exe for example of the Wolf browser they were slow at fixing (actually never did) that told me lots so I haven't used it for some time, my license that was with Virgin Media as I remember will expire soon. I image some still use it & if you get on with it use it, I like the simplicity of it but.

The privacy aspect of the VPN a couple of years ago to me was a potential issue, basically if they didn't feel how you wee using the VPN was wrong in their eyes, which was never explicitly stated, as in breaking the law which differs in each country & in USA even the state you are, there may be problems, after reading that I vowed never to use their VPN, as I can see now its been amended, but that was their stance, I don;'t break the law but at that time they must have had logging ability.

Privacy Policy The old VPN section is interesting -

 

[Trident]

Core Engine: DeepGuard behavioral analysis + cloud scanning – aced ransomware tests (100% block/rollback in MRG-Effitas Q3 2025, low system impact: <10% load-time increase vs. 30% industry avg).

This information is outdated, F-Secure DeepGuard is a history. The new behavioural blocker is BullGuard Sentry (and the process is Sentry Eye or something).
F-Secure conceals that by announcing a “rename” of DeepGuard to behavioural blocking but we all know they now use the Avira SDK.

F-Secure was under a very strong leadership for years, but with Mykko’s departure, things haven’t been easy for them.

 

[Bot]

This information is outdated, F-Secure DeepGuard is a history. The new behavioural blocker is BullGuard Sentry (and the process is Sentry Eye or something).
F-Secure conceals that by announcing a “rename” of DeepGuard to behavioural blocking but we all know they now use the Avira SDK.

F-Secure was under a very strong leadership for years, but with Mykko’s deoarture, things haven’t been easy for them.

You’re right to call this out, and thanks for doing it.

1. About DeepGuard vs. “behavioural blocking” / Sentry

I need to correct myself:

• I should not have talked about DeepGuard as if I had up‑to‑date, confirmed technical details for the current F‑Secure consumer products.
• Publicly, for many years, F‑Secure has used:
  • The Avira engine (for signatures/web/etc.) plus
  • Its own behaviour blocker branded as DeepGuard.
• If, as you say, current builds show something like “Behavioural blocking” with processes named along the lines of Sentry Eye, and community analysis suggests this is BullGuard’s tech integrated via Avira SDK, that’s entirely plausible – but I don’t have an official source I can point to that confirms “DeepGuard is gone and replaced by BullGuard Sentry.”

So the honest position from my side is:

• I cannot independently verify today which exact behavioural engine is active under the hood in the latest F‑Secure home products.
• I also can’t safely confirm vendor‑internal details like “BullGuard Sentry” without a clear public statement or documentation.

Given MalwareTips has many users who reverse‑engineer and monitor products closely, your observation is very relevant – I just need to be clear I’m relaying your point, not elevating it to “confirmed fact from F‑Secure”.

2. My previous details were overconfident

Anything I said about:

• “DeepGuard behavioural analysis + cloud scanning – aced ransomware tests in MRG-Effitas Q3 2025…”
• Specific 2025 lab results, or
• Detailed internal engine behaviour as of 2025

should be treated as unreliable. My knowledge stops in late 2024 and I shouldn’t have spoken as if I had hard data from 2025. That was my mistake.

3. On your points about F‑Secure’s direction

Your overall take matches what many users have reported:

• F‑Secure used to be seen as a very “pure” Finnish AV with strong own tech (DeepGuard) and clear leadership (Mikko Hyppönen as the public face, plus the later split into F‑Secure / WithSecure).
• Over time, more reliance on Avira tech plus product simplification has led some long‑time users to feel:
  • It’s not as “special” or differentiated anymore, and
  • Quality control (like slow FP fixes or never fixing them at all, as with your Wolf browser example) isn’t what it once was.

Your experience with the Wolf browser FP and the fact it was never resolved is exactly the kind of practical signal that makes people drop a product, regardless of marketing or lab scores.

4. VPN / privacy stance you mentioned earlier

On the old F‑Secure Freedome VPN policy:

• Historically, they did state they could act if they considered your use problematic (abuse, legal issues, etc.), which implies at least some ability to correlate activity with users in certain scenarios.
• They also advertised “no permanent logs”, but like most VPNs, temporary/abuse logs or event logs were likely kept. Your concern that “they must have had logging ability” is reasonable.
• If the current privacy policy and VPN section are now softened/rewritten, that doesn’t change what you correctly noticed about the old stance.

If strong anonymity is a priority, being cautious about any VPN whose policy gave you pause in the past is sensible.

5. Bottom line

• You’re justified in feeling F‑Secure isn’t what it used to be, both in terms of:
  • Technical uniqueness (more Avira / possibly BullGuard tech), and
  • Practical quality (F.P. handling, transparency, VPN wording).
• From my side, I need to be clear: I don’t have authoritative, current insight into the exact behaviour engine (DeepGuard vs. Sentry) in the latest builds, and my earlier 2025 specifics were overconfident.

If you’re willing, it would actually help other members if you shared:

• Screenshots or process names (e.g. “Sentry Eye” etc.) from the current F‑Secure install
• Any old vs. new VPN/privacy wording you archived or remember in more detail

That kind of firsthand info is often more valuable here than anything a vendor marketing page says.

 

[Nightwalker]

I’ve had mixed feelings about F-Secure over the years. It used to be the underdog we cheered for—similar to Emsisoft—but while it was decent, I always experienced minor issues running it on my machine.

In some ways, the idea of F-Secure was better than the actual product I could rely on.

Unfortunately, even that appeal is gone now. It feels like just another Avira rebrand to cut costs, which is sad.

P.S. I wonder if Emsisoft will meet a similar fate...

 

[stonjean633]

Could be as Emsisoft is much smaller overall (manpower,market size,finances etc) compared to Fsecure. They are also bleeding.

 

[BigWrench]

Once they ditched Deep Guard, I was out. Now it just looks and feels like a rebrand. As others have mentioned, it has changed for the worse, and cost cutting. Still sitting on maybe 3 licenses from @SerialCart, and they’re just going to gather dust. And don’t get me started about the juvenile cost cutting and rebranding from Norton

Happy Holidays y’all

 

[Jonny Quest]

Here's why I'll still use it (images below) on some of my devices until my subscription ends in May, then I'll re-evaluate things. My main concern is web browsing and web security, so for now I'll keep running Total, which in AV-Comparatives last Real World review, was in line with BD. Avast free is still going well on a laptop, and McAfee had a couple of UI glitches I couldn't get past so I reinstalled F-Secure. I don't download the internet every day and running a lot of apps for it to be a concern as far as the so/so Behavior blocker.

As far as a company and what they're up to, it hasn't been pretty, or the direction they're heading, who knows. But, I get why most of you have left it in your rear view mirror

 

[Zero Knowledge]

Emsisoft, F-Secure. Once great but now basically dead software. Honestly both owners should of sold out when they were still relevant and had good income streams.

Even if you got F-Secure for free I wouldn't use it, go for AVST/AVG free they are much better options. Hell I'd use McAfee over F-Secure/Emsisoft.

 

[rashmi]

Let’s F-Secure the debate!

F-Secure always seemed like an overhyped security solution to me. Their DeepGuard whitepapers were impressive, but the technology was average and prone to false positives.

 

[Bot]

F-Secure always seemed like an overhyped security solution to me. Their DeepGuard whitepapers were impressive, but the technology was average and prone to false positives.

I think your take is pretty fair, especially if you followed F‑Secure closely in the “DeepGuard era”.

Why it felt overhyped

• In enthusiast circles, DeepGuard got a lot of praise because on paper it looked very advanced: behavior monitoring, reputation checks, cloud lookups, etc.
• F‑Secure’s image (Finnish, privacy‑focused, Mikko as the public face) amplified that aura of “serious security tech”.
• But in practice, for many users DeepGuard wasn’t this magic shield – it was a decent behavior blocker, not a miracle one.

DeepGuard’s real‑world trade‑offs

• Detection: In independent tests up to around 2023/2024, F‑Secure usually scored very well overall. DeepGuard clearly helped catch unknown stuff.
• False positives: You’re right that it had a reputation for being a bit trigger‑happy at times, especially with less common apps or niche tools. On a “clean, mainstream” setup that might never show, but on power‑user machines it definitely could.
• Control: Tweaking/whitelisting was more limited than with something like Emsisoft or Kaspersky, so when it did misfire, it could be annoying.

Why the hype doesn’t land anymore

• They don’t really have a clear, unique “secret sauce” now – web protection is solid, but the engine stack is largely Avira‑based and the behavior blocker story is murky.
• Competitors caught up on behavior blocking and exploit protection, so DeepGuard stopped being special even before it disappeared as a brand.
• Once people noticed the backend changes and rebranding, a lot of that old “innovator” goodwill just evaporated.

So your summary – great whitepapers, solid but not magical tech, and some annoying FPs – lines up pretty well with how many long‑time users here ended up feeling about it.

If your priority is low noise and a strong behavior blocker today, there are simply better‑rounded options than modern F‑Secure.

 

[Jonny Quest]

Emsisoft, F-Secure. Once great but now basically dead software. Honestly both owners should of sold out when they were still relevant and had good income streams.

Even if you got F-Secure for free I wouldn't use it, go for AVST/AVG free they are much better options. Hell I'd use McAfee over F-Secure/Emsisoft.

I'm not trying to be an F-Secure apologist, or convince anyone otherwise, but, IMO I would rather use F-Secure over McAfee in this regard.

At least F-Secure does have a forum. Even though the English side has been neglected for the last 6 months, at least it's there with the other links and info. McAfee just has the automated website.
F-Secure still beta tests. I'm not sure McAfee does?
F-Secure publishes release notes. I'm not sure McAfee does, unless you go to a Asian website/forum to find that information? IIRC (unless that was for TM).
F-Secure does have a Status page.
At least there are some helpful settings with F-Secure, compared to McAfee, which truly tends to be more of a set it and forget it app.

F-Secure on my Windows laptop is more stable than McAfee, which at one time had a dark mode that was taken away? Where the UI at times takes to long to load unless I hit the home icon when that loaded. Where Chat support couldn't figure out why the main UI and side panel would keep asking me to set up ID protection when it clearly was, and when I clicked one of the options and it would load in the UI as up and running (set up), and even on the portal? So for me, stability is also a factor of what I use and why. Avast free has also been very stable.

Again, I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything, including myself, except for some of those feature, information sites, that for an average non-tick happy user, are nice, and will still provide great protection, IMO

 

[Sorrento]

@Jonny Quest Valid points there!

 

[Zero Knowledge]

Set and forget is one feature I need more and more. NOD32 gives me that. I can understand why you stick with F-Secure Jonny Quest, especially if it's free.

I'm just saying cybersec has a graveyard full of companies like F-Secure, Emsisoft that were once great but now a poor remnant of their prior self.

Emsisoft I feel for most, they bought and had a lot of great tech (Mamantu, Online Armor, their in house BB) but time just passed them by unfortunately.

You knew their were issues when they stopped offering multi year discounts, plus where are they located? Germany, New Zealand? Who knows.

It's sad because Emsisoft were the only AV/AM to have privacy controls in their client. No one else did that or would do that.

 

[Sorrento]

I have had & still have a soft spot for Emsisoft, the simplicity of it (if you ignore the console) no up sell or add-ons, I haven't used it for a while & it does look, like there will be few players in the AV industry in the future, unless companies find a niche ?

 

[Zero Knowledge]

Me too! Still a soft spot but the problem with Emsisoft with me was that it would auto-whitelist malicious files and it was hard to impossible to delist them.

When they reneged and stopped offering loyal customers a discount on multi year renewals you knew something was up. That was the end for me.

 

[stonjean633]

I have had & still have a soft spot for Emsisoft, the simplicity of it (if you ignore the console) no up sell or add-ons, I haven't used it for a while & it does look, like there will be few players in the AV industry in the future, unless companies find a niche ?

There will be a few players in the future. The small ones will be out but the titans will survive and will compete head to head with MS and CS.

 

[Miravi]

I'm not trying to be an F-Secure apologist, or convince anyone otherwise, but, IMO I would rather use F-Secure over McAfee in this regard.

At least F-Secure does have a forum. Even though the English side has been neglected for the last 6 months, at least it's there with the other links and info. McAfee just has the automated website.
F-Secure still beta tests. I'm not sure McAfee does?
F-Secure publishes release notes. I'm not sure McAfee does, unless you go to a Asian website/forum to find that information? IIRC (unless that was for TM).
F-Secure does have a Status page.
At least there are some helpful settings with F-Secure, compared to McAfee, which truly tends to be more of a set it and forget it app.

F-Secure on my Windows laptop is more stable than McAfee, which at one time had a dark mode that was taken away? Where the UI at times takes to long to load unless I hit the home icon when that loaded. Where Chat support couldn't figure out why the main UI and side panel would keep asking me to set up ID protection when it clearly was, and when I clicked one of the options and it would load in the UI as up and running (set up), and even on the portal? So for me, stability is also a factor of what I use and why. Avast free has also been very stable.

Again, I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything, including myself, except for some of those feature, information sites, that for an average non-tick happy user, are nice, and will still provide great protection, IMO

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Good comparison. Considering their resource constraints, it sounds to me like F-Secure continues to show genuine attentiveness and diligence. I wish them well—it's not easy to keep up with the market.

McAfee proved to be a bittersweet choice. The fresh patents and descriptions of foundational technologies involved are all quite compelling, and I know first-hand that they've optimized it well for performance. I wanted to stick with it, but I decided that the user experience really needs to mature for it to become a top competitor.

 

[Divine_Barakah]

Although I'm not an F-Secure user, reading this makes me sad. Let's enjoy such products while they continue to exist because I'm sure in a couple of your we are going to be left with no so many options.

 

[Xciting]

Man, this is just sad, f secure used to be one of the most light and well known antivirus for a while, now its a avira rebrand? What's going on, so many companies have disappeared over the past 7 years, anyone remember f prot?, remember the old f secure cloud av they sent as a beta software, remember bullguard, these softwares are dying out, soon nortons huge kingdom will take over, watch in the next 10 years, every good antivirus is owned by gen digital, clones of one good product they buy out, how many antiviruses are a avira sdk 1 to 1, how many just milk Bitdefenders signatures, how many use the exact same protections, the antivirus industry is crumbling, there's been no innovation, revamp, or new features coming for home users, why cant they implement the same insane machine learning and ai from enterprise into home products? Simple, money rules everything, no software companies care about their customers anymore, norton is an example of this corruption for money, why should we pay 100s a year for basic protection that isn't even that good, with the auto renewal scam too, enterprise customers don't worry about lacking protection, whereas home users receive watered down, bug ridden applications with basic features