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Briefly explain your current issue(s)
For example, when I play League of Legends, I start with 35 FPS where I usually have 200, and those 35 fluctuate and drop down to 12. And when moving the camera around, the video of the game lags a lot, like it struggles to show the content. It's not a fluid camera movement.

When this happens, and I alt+tab to the main system, the system itself is laggy and takes forever to do basic stuff (took like 6 seconds to open Task Manager). Upon reboot, system usually is alright and League may or may not perform well for a single game, then hell unleashes again.
Steps taken to resolve, but have been unsuccessful
What I've tried:
  • Update and reinstall graphics driver
  • Update all other drivers
  • Check the laptop was connected
  • Check if enery saving mode was ON
  • Check power saving options
  • Update the game
  • Update the OS to the latest W11 build
  • Check for high temperatures
  • Change the thermal paste
I'm trying to avoid having to reinstall the OS.
Your current Antivirus
Kaspersky Standard
Morning y'all, I hope you're doing alright and can help me.

I own this gaming laptop: Showcase - RoboMan's Gaming Laptop 2022

CPU Intel Core i5 10500H
GPU RTX 3050 4GB
RAM 16GB (DDR4 2667 MHz)
Storage 256GB SSD + 1TB HDD

Security software installed: Kaspersky Standard and SysHardener.

And since a couple of weeks back I'm experiencing significant FPS drop and overall horrible system functionality from time to time.
 
Get a laptop chiller; basically a set of fans that the laptop sits on and helps to suck the hot air out.


and if you are running at 98c then it means that the laptop shoots up to TjMax and then downthrottles to 98c by cutting power/performance. The TjMax is hit in a less than a second for it to downthrottle so it won't be shown on the temp control however it will be shown on HWInfo.exe app under MAX temp's.
Thanks for the suggestion!
Did you test it after installing new thermal paste? Usually it requires curing time like 2 hours. Then it's a good time to check
Haven't changed the thermal paste yet, it's been sitting in the living room table for several days lol. I will be doing it this week though.
 
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Is using this different from using "Legion Quiet Mode" in Lenovo Vantage? In other words, will this just add a power profile or does it do more than that?
UPDATE:

I tested this program and compared it to the "Legion Quiet Mode" in Lenovo Vantage, and I was surprised by the result. Lenovo's power profile only reduces fan noise, while Camomile does much more. My processor temperature stays between 30 and 35 degrees Celsius, even with heavy tasks. This program is a hidden gem.

@Parkinsond You might like this program because I noticed that you care about CPU temperature, and it even has indicators to display the temperature in the taskbar.
 
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Get a laptop chiller; basically a set of fans that the laptop sits on and helps to suck the hot air out.


and if you are running at 98c then it means that the laptop shoots up to TjMax and then downthrottles to 98c by cutting power/performance. The TjMax is hit in a less than a second for it to downthrottle so it won't be shown on the temp control however it will be shown on HWInfo.exe app under MAX temp's.
And I believe he plays while the charger is connected, I would get a charger. If the laptop needs 180w for example, I would get a 240w charger or even a 300w gan power station. When you use a 180w charger and the laptop needs 180w the charger temperature goes up quickly and throtlling could happen pretty fast. Of course assuming the laptop has a type c charger.
 
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UPDATE:

I tested this program and compared it to the "Legion Quiet Mode" in Lenovo Vantage, and I was surprised by the result. Lenovo's power profile only reduces fan noise, while Camomile does much more. My processor temperature stays between 30 and 35 degrees Celsius, even with heavy tasks. This program is a hidden gem.

@Parkinsond You might like this program because I noticed that you care about CPU temperature, and it even has indicators to display the temperature in the taskbar.
If your laptop has normal thermal paste and not metal liquid, I recommend getting a vertical stand (if you have an external monitor). This will be better for the airflow.

If your laptop gets extremely hot, then the vertical stand might cause what is called "Hinge Heat" if the exhaust vents are located near the hinge. And that could damage the laptop screen over the years as the hot air gets blown directly towards the bottom of the screen.
 
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If your laptop has normal thermal paste and not metal liquid, I recommend getting a vertical stand (if you have an external monitor). This will be better for the airflow.

If your laptop gets extremely hot, then the vertical stand might cause what is called "Hinge Heat" if the exhaust vents are located near the hinge. And that could damage the laptop screen over the years as the hot air gets blown directly towards the bottom of the screen.
The orientation also plays a role in electronics. See the PS5. Some are overheating due to liquid metal going away from the cpu/gpu running in vertical position.
 
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The orientation also plays a role in electronics. See the PS5. Some are overheating due to liquid metal going away from the cpu/gpu running in vertical position.
That's why I mentioned the normal thermal paste. If the device has normal thermal paste, the vertical position would be perfect but it also depends on the vents placement.


But what is more important, at least in my experience, is the charger. If the charger gets extremely hot, then it throttles and the laptop does not get enough power to reach its top performance.

Now my laptop peaks at 67w, that is why I got 140w charger. This way the charger does not have to work at 100% all the time and that way it does not get extremely hot thus no throttling happens.
 
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If your laptop has normal thermal paste and not metal liquid, I recommend getting a vertical stand (if you have an external monitor). This will be better for the airflow.

If your laptop gets extremely hot, then the vertical stand might cause what is called "Hinge Heat" if the exhaust vents are located near the hinge. And that could damage the laptop screen over the years as the hot air gets blown directly towards the bottom of the screen.
I have a Lenovo laptop and no external monitor. My laptop has three built-in Lenovo power modes, in addition to the default Windows power mode. The processor doesn't overheat, but the "Camomile" software prevents sudden temperature spikes, for example, during Windows updates, keeping the processor temperature between 30 and 35 degrees Celsius. I don't know if this software is helpful, and I don't have much experience with hardware. What are your recommendations?
 
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I have a Lenovo laptop and no external monitor. My laptop has three built-in Lenovo power modes, in addition to the default Windows power mode. The processor doesn't overheat, but the "Camomile" software prevents sudden temperature spikes, for example, during Windows updates, keeping the processor temperature between 30 and 35 degrees Celsius. I don't know if this software is helpful, and I don't have much experience with hardware. What are your recommendations?
I had a Lenovo Legion but my expereince was too bad. During Summer in Egypt I could not keep the temp under control no matter what I did. I got a premium fan and I was using AC but nothing worked so I had to sell the device because it was too risky to keep it.


My recommendation is to regularly clean the laptop from dust. Change thermal paste if you still have not. And use a good cooling fan. You mentioned that the cpu temp stays around 30c which is very very good. Mine was 65 most of the time and I though I had a faulty device. It was powered by Ryzen 5 4600H.
 
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Though unrelated to this topic, Lenovo is very bad when it comes to drivers updates. Always behind and the drivers on Lenovo website is older than those who gets pushed through Windows Updates.

I had a better experience from HP and Dell.
 
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You mentioned that the cpu temp stays around 30c which is very very good. Mine was 65 most of the time and I though I had a faulty device.
The laptop temperature sometimes rises to 80 degrees when updating or running scheduled maintenance tasks when I'm away for 5 minutes, but it's now around 30 with the Camomile app installed, so I think I'll continue using it. Thank you.
 
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The laptop temperature sometimes rises to 80 degrees when updating or running scheduled maintenance tasks when I'm away for 5 minutes, but it's now around 30 with the Camomile app installed, so I think I'll continue using it. Thank you.
The app is redundant. It does not do magic and if you are a gamer you will notice a drop on frames. Personally I'd stick to Lenovo Vantage.


Process lasso works differently btw.
 
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Hmm, lots of bloatware could be one of the culprits here. Did you clean install or that system is from factory?

Default systems that came from the box got lots of bloatware consuming RAM,CPU etc.

I always do a clean install using MS media creation tool whenever I get a new machine.
 
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Hmm, lots of bloatware could be one of the culprits here. Did you clean install or that system is from factory?

Default systems that came from the box got lots of bloatware consuming RAM,CPU etc.

I always do a clean install using MS media creation tool whenever I get a new machine.
And in 2015, Lenovo laptop came bundled with the Superfish malware.


SuperFish intercepts HTTP(S) traffic using a self-signed root certificate. This is stored in the local certificate store and provides a security concern.
 
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@RoboMan did you found the issue?

Personally i did clean install week ago, since then im constantly getting few times a day this same problem > while playing game the fps drops exact to 12 fps, everything stutters and all i can do is hit ctrl+alt+del and reboot.

I have only discord, old school runescape ( the game i play) , spotify pretty much installed, also installed newest amd chipset driver, mouse drivers and nvidia drivers, nothing else i dont have in pc installed

There is no spikes in temp, i have aio and year old gaming pc, cleaned dusts away once a month for now. Nothing in even wiever and tried dism/scannow aka restore health on cmd too.
 
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@RoboMan did you found the issue?

Personally i did clean install week ago, since then im constantly getting few times a day this same problem > while playing game the fps drops exact to 12 fps, everything stutters and all i can do is hit ctrl+alt+del and reboot.

I have only discord, old school runescape ( the game i play) , spotify pretty much installed, also installed newest amd chipset driver, mouse drivers and nvidia drivers, nothing else i dont have in pc installed

There is no spikes in temp, i have aio and year old gaming pc, cleaned dusts away once a month for now. Nothing in even wiever and tried dism/scannow aka restore health on cmd too.
Hit me up in OSRS, I play it too ocassionally!
And as for the issue I haven't had a chance to replicate the problem since we've had pretty cold days and the laptop's temperatures stay low. I haven't changed the thermal paste yet either. But what you're describing happens to me regularly when a new NVIDIA driver is out but not installed. I usually solve that by clean installing the newer version of the GPU driver and rebooting. Also, enabling V-SYNC usually helps. As well, I've noticed that updating all drivers upon clean Windows install with IObit Driver Booster, then uninstalling the app, usually solves gaming issues too.
 
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Morning y'all, I hope you're doing alright and can help me.

I own this gaming laptop: Showcase - RoboMan's Gaming Laptop 2022

CPU Intel Core i5 10500H
GPU RTX 3050 4GB
RAM 16GB (DDR4 2667 MHz)
Storage 256GB SSD + 1TB HDD

Security software installed: Kaspersky Standard and SysHardener.

And since a couple of weeks back I'm experiencing significant FPS drop and overall horrible system functionality from time to time.

Hello @RoboMan

From what you described in the thread, this is classic thermal throttling: after one LoL match you’re seeing CPU ~98°C and GPU ~87°C, and once throttling kicks in the whole system becomes sluggish until reboot. You also mentioned it still happens after a clean Windows install, so it’s very unlikely to be an “OS problem.”

Here’s the most practical fix path, in order.

1) Prove it in 2 minutes (so you’re not guessing)​

  • Install HWiNFO64 and run Sensors only.
  • Start a LoL match for 5 to 10 minutes.
  • Watch these lines:
    • CPU Core Temperature (Max)
    • CPU Effective Clock
    • Any “Thermal Throttling / PROCHOT / Power Limit” indicators
    • GPU Clock and GPU Temperature
      If you see clocks drop hard (example: CPU falls near 800 MHz to 1.5 GHz) while temps spike, that’s your smoking gun.

2) Immediate workaround that usually stops the “hell unleashes” moment​

This sacrifices a tiny bit of peak performance to keep temps under control, and LoL won’t care much:

  • Windows Power Options → Advanced → Processor power management
    • Set Maximum processor state = 99% (this disables Intel Turbo Boost on many systems)
  • In League settings, cap FPS:
    • Set a cap like 120 or 144 instead of “uncapped”
This often drops CPU temps by a lot and prevents the system-wide lag spiral.

3) Fix the root cause: repaste done correctly (your current symptoms scream “bad contact”)​

If paste was changed and temps didn’t move, common causes are: uneven mounting pressure, wrong screw order, dried paste, too-thick pads preventing contact, or the heatsink not seating flat.

Do this carefully:

  • Remove the heatsink, clean CPU and GPU dies with isopropyl alcohol until shiny.
  • Apply a high-quality solution:
    • For thin gaming laptops, Honeywell PTM7950 (phase-change pad) is often a huge improvement and more consistent than many pastes.
    • If using paste, use something known for laptops (not watery, not old), and apply a small, even amount.
  • Check thermal pads:
    • If pads are too thick or shifted, the heatsink won’t clamp properly on the CPU die.
  • Tighten heatsink screws in the numbered order gradually (half turns in a cross pattern).
If after a correct repaste the CPU still rockets to 98°C in LoL, the next likely culprit is the cooling hardware itself.

4) Make sure MSI’s fan profile is actually helping you​

On MSI laptops, you often need MSI Center or Dragon Center features for aggressive cooling.

  • Install the official MSI utility for your model and enable any equivalent of Cooler Boost or a max fan / performance profile.
  • If your model won’t expose fan control, a cooling pad can still help (especially on thin chassis).
    FanControl was also suggested in the thread, but laptop EC support varies, so treat it as “maybe.”

5) If repaste + airflow doesn’t fix it, replace the cooling assembly​

If a heatpipe is partially failed or the heatsink is warped, paste changes won’t solve it.
On a thin laptop like the MSI GF63, a replacement heatsink + fan assembly can be the real “final fix” when temps are stuck near TJmax.

6) Still do these “no downside” settings (they prevent iGPU/power weirdness)​

These won’t solve 98°C, but they prevent the game from using the wrong power behavior:

  • NVIDIA Control Panel:
    • Power management mode: Prefer maximum performance
  • Windows Settings → Display → Graphics:
    • Set LoL executables to High performance (NVIDIA)

If you want the shortest “do this first” checklist​

  1. Cap LoL FPS to 120 or 144.
  2. Set Max Processor State to 99% and test.
  3. Repaste yourself, checking pads and heatsink contact.
  4. If still 95 to 100°C, replace heatsink/fan assembly.
If you tell me your exact MSI GF63 variant (full model name) and whether you have MSI Center/Dragon Center installed, I can point you to the right fan/performance toggles for that chassis.
 
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Hit me up in OSRS, I play it too ocassionally!
And as for the issue I haven't had a chance to replicate the problem since we've had pretty cold days and the laptop's temperatures stay low. I haven't changed the thermal paste yet either. But what you're describing happens to me regularly when a new NVIDIA driver is out but not installed. I usually solve that by clean installing the newer version of the GPU driver and rebooting. Also, enabling V-SYNC usually helps. As well, I've noticed that updating all drivers upon clean Windows install with IObit Driver Booster, then uninstalling the app, usually solves gaming issues too.
hmm. I just got that 'lagging problem' earlier today, managed to close discord manually and the lag was gone, everything went back to normal. I guess its discord doing it, so i disabled hardware acceleration and so far im good with 6 hour grind no crashes.
 
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