Serious Discussion How to Safely and Completely Remove AV

roger_m

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May remove CMD commands related to complete the uninstallation of the product after restarting the device, which will create more leftovers.
They shouldn't do, as they both can scan for leftovers after rebooting. So you can allow the computer to reboot if required and then they will do the scan for leftovers. Of course monitoring the installation is the best option.
 

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They shouldn't do, as they both can scan for leftovers after rebooting. So you can allow the computer to reboot if required and then they will do the scan for leftovers. Of course monitoring the installation is the best option.
Of course, monitoring the installation is the best option. Good to know that Revo and HiBit can do that too, I thought it was just Soft Organizer because it make it obvious by marking the antivirus as traced visually.
 

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I'll remove Revo. And I'll remove the rest manually. It's not a problem with folders but rather with the registry. And Revo removes registry entries.
 

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Of course, monitoring the installation is the best option. Good to know that Revo and HiBit can do that too, I thought it was just Soft Organizer because it make it obvious by marking the antivirus as traced visually.
In addition, IObit Uninstaller has been able to do that for sometime, after I suggested they add that feature. However, it's doesn't do very well at scanning for leftovers these days when compared to HiBit and Revo. But it is able to automatically monitor some installations. I should do some tests and see how it fares with automatically AV installations.
 

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In addition, IObit Uninstaller has been able to do that for sometime, after I suggested they add that feature. However, it's doesn't do very well at scanning for leftovers these days when compared to HiBit and Revo. But it is able to automatically monitor some installations. I should do some tests and see how it fares with automatically AV installations.
What I like about IObit Uninstaller is it shows the leftovers in a collapsed view when you remove multiple apps which makes it easier to understand what is related to every app, not in a cluttered way as Revo and HiBit do, I asked the developer of HiBit to implement this view to show the leftovers recently.
 

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I would like to thank everyone for their comments and help in this topic ;)

Finally.
I removed Fsecure Revo Free. My computer is clean.
Yesterday I removed Eset in the same way. Also after using Revo Free my computer is clean from Eset.
I always choose full scan in Revo options when uninstalling.
Only things like plugin folders in Firefox folders remain. But these are removed from Firefox. These folders can always be manually deleted without any problems.
 

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I removed Fsecure Revo Free. My computer is clean.
Yesterday I removed Eset in the same way. Also after using Revo Free my computer is clean from Eset.
I always choose full scan in Revo options when uninstalling.
Only things like plugin folders in Firefox folders remain. But these are removed from Firefox. These folders can always be manually deleted without any problems.
Ideally you should download and run their own removal tools too.
 

IceMan7

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Ideally you should download and run their own removal tools too.
In the case of Fsecure it is not recommended from the start. On their forum and in the instructions on the website there is information that their tools should be used as a last resort.

In the case of Eset I never had good memories with this tool. So I did not risk it. If Revo failed, then I would probably have to use the Eset tool.

But thanks ;)
 

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Bitdefender leaves a lot of leftovers, specially the ProgramData folder.
I just uninstalled BD Total manually then using the uninstall tool, and there was also a leftover in Program Files/Common files. Everything finds those files, as I previously didn't know about that one.
The idea is to completely remove the AV from the system, including the registry. It simply does not have to sit anywhere in the system.
Folders are not a problem. Folders can be easily removed manually.
 

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The idea is to completely remove the AV from the system, including the registry. It simply does not have to sit anywhere in the system.
Folders are not a problem. Folders can be easily removed manually.
It's what I just did. I don't use Revo, I do it the old fashioned time consuming way: Regedit/Run as Admin/Find/Bitdefender/Find next, Find next etc. etc. etc. :)
Not a fan of Revo, I've never really been sure, comfortable in using it, and in trusting it.
 
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I just uninstalled BD Total manually then using the uninstall tool, and there was also a leftover in Program Files/Common files. Everything finds those files, as I previously didn't know about that one.
The problem with Bitdefender is that it doesn't create folders obviously related to it for example "Bitdefender" and put everything inside it, but it creates folders starting with "BD*" for example "BDLogging" folder in ProgramData and so on, not to mention separated files.
The idea is to completely remove the AV from the system, including the registry. It simply does not have to sit anywhere in the system.
Believe me when I say nothing can clear the registry and I tried every single uninstaller and registry cleaner available and @roger_m have an extensive experience with this kind of apps and can tell you more about this.
Folders are not a problem. Folders can be easily removed manually.
This is when they have clear names related to the app you remove, check your ProgramData folder to see how many file Bitdefender created that will not be removed after uninstalling, here are some examples (numbers maybe different, but the pattern will be the same):
  • agent.1628669017.bdinstall.v2.bin
  • agent.uninstall.1628675283.bdinstall.v2.bin
  • cl.1628669184.bdinstall.v2.bin
  • cl.kit.1628669183.bdinstall.v2.bin
  • cl.uninstall.1628675200.bdinstall.v2.bin
  • vpn.1628669503.bdinstall.v2.bin
  • vpn.uninstall.1628675115.bdinstall.v2.bin
Not a fan of Revo, I've never really been sure, comfortable in using it, and in trusting it.
I moved recently to BCUninstaller not because it is the best, but because it is easier to understand what you are deleting than Revo/HiBit, it also gives a rate to what it finds: "good, very good" are marked, "questionable" to be decided by the user, bad are hidden but also can be seen and delete if you wish.
 

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The problem with Bitdefender is that it doesn't create folders obviously related to it for example "Bitdefender" and put everything inside it, but it creates folders starting with "BD*" for example "BDLogging" folder in ProgramData and so on, not to mention separated files.

(......)

This is when they have clear names related to the app you remove, check your ProgramData folder to see how many file Bitdefender created that will not be removed after uninstalling, here are some examples (numbers maybe different, but the pattern will be the same):
  • agent.1628669017.bdinstall.v2.bin
  • agent.uninstall.1628675283.bdinstall.v2.bin
  • cl.1628669184.bdinstall.v2.bin
  • cl.kit.1628669183.bdinstall.v2.bin
  • cl.uninstall.1628675200.bdinstall.v2.bin
  • vpn.1628669503.bdinstall.v2.bin
  • vpn.uninstall.1628675115.bdinstall.v2.bin
Of course. But when I last had BD a few years ago, now it's more organized. Previously, more BD files were free without folders.

In the case of Revo - you delete. First, they turn on Windows "add/remove programs". Then it scans keys. You delete. Then it scans folders. You delete. That's how I removed Eset and Fsecure.
Then I reset the computer.
Using Eset as an example. After restarting, I go to drive C. I type Eset in "search". It finds Eset files. I manually delete them to the trash.
Restart the computer. I turn on CCCleaner. I run the cleaning. It removes all remnants from the trash. CCCleaner scans the registry and deletes them.
Restart the computer.
I checked FRST later and I have no traces of Eset and Fsecure.

The same can be done with BD. Unfortunately, there is no perfect way to remove any AV. I got lucky. Or it could be that I need to use their removal tool or seek help on the forum because something is left behind by some AV.
 
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IceMan7

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It's what I just did. I don't use Revo, I do it the old fashioned time consuming way: Regedit/Run as Admin/Find/Bitdefender/Find next, Find next etc. etc. etc. :)
Not a fan of Revo, I've never really been sure, comfortable in using it, and in trusting it.
I'm not good with the registry. I'd rather give it to a program. In my history, I've manually deleted too many more than once :D And that didn't end well :)
Fortunately, whenever I delete something from my computer, I always check "create a system restore point" for safety.
 

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I'm not good with the registry. I'd rather give it to a program. In my history, I've manually deleted too many more than once :D And that didn't end well :)
Fortunately, whenever I delete something from my computer, I always check "create a system restore point" for safety.
As for me, there are the ones that I have no idea about and trust Windows, but with most of them I can highlight the registry information and verify it is the software key name I want to delete.

The times I've tried Revo, there was the one main registry entry with a cascading window of other keys underneath it to delete. Can you hover your mouse cursor over those to confirm them, or is it a check the first box to enable them all to be checked and deleted, cross your fingers and hope for the best :) having of course backed up the registry first.
 

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I'm not good with the registry. I'd rather give it to a program. In my history, I've manually deleted too many more than once :D And that didn't end well :)
Fortunately, whenever I delete something from my computer, I always check "create a system restore point" for safety.
Here are the places where apps store their info in the registry mostly:

2025-01-20 at 18-37-53 RegistryFinder.png
As for me, there are the ones that I have no idea about and trust Windows, but with most of them I can highlight the registry information and verify it is the software key name I want to delete.

The times I've tried Revo, there was the one main registry entry with a cascading window of other keys underneath it to delete. Can you hover your mouse cursor over those to confirm them, or is it a check the first box to enable them all to be checked and deleted, cross your fingers and hope for the best :) having of course backed up the registry first.
You can use Registry Finder instead of Windows registry to find entries more easily (in the screenshot above).

And in Revo just concentrate on the main entries and neglect the keys underneath it, they are related to it so they are safe to delete, in fact it is easier than HiBit to understand the entries with this cascading view.
 

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