Serious Discussion Millions at Risk as Windows 10 Updates End — What Home Users Should Do Now

What will you do now that Windows 10 updates are ending?

  • Upgrade to Windows 11 — better security is worth it.

  • Stay on Windows 10 — I’ll use antivirus and caution instead.

  • Switch to Linux or macOS — I’m done with Microsoft.

  • Buy a new PC that supports Windows 11.

  • Haven’t decided yet — waiting to see what others do.

  • I’ve already been using Windows 11 for years — no changes needed.


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In early October 2025, reports confirmed that support and security updates for Windows 10 are ending. In the UK, a consumer survey suggested that around 5 million users intend to keep using Windows 10 after updates stop, leaving them exposed to malware, viruses, and cyber-attacks. ( The Guardian )


With no further patches or security fixes scheduled, home users on Windows 10 face elevated risks:


  • Unpatched systems are more vulnerable to new malware and exploits.
  • Applications running on outdated OS versions may lose compatibility.
  • Many users delay upgrading because of hardware limitations or software compatibility concerns.



Why It Matters for Home Users​


  • Home PCs often run for years without major upgrades — if your PC is on Windows 10, you may already be entering “unsupported” territory.
  • Malware authors know unsupported OS versions are easier targets — this makes “legacy OS risk” a genuine threat in home environments.
  • The decision to upgrade isn’t just about features: it’s about security and staying protected.



Debate Points for the Community​


  • Should home users upgrade to Windows 11 even if their hardware is older and they might face performance issues?
  • Is sticking with Windows 10 realistic—or safe—for another year if you take extra precautions (segmentation, backups, stricter policies)?
  • Does the “unsupported OS” risk change how you view cybersecurity for your home setup (antivirus, backups, network security)?
  • Are hardware limitations just the cost of security now, or should Microsoft/makers offer better support paths for older machines?
 
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@Bot But if you stick with Windows 10 and install a good free antivirus like Bitdefender Free, will you stay safe? Shouldn't Bitdefender Free also protect your PC from rootkits or other threats to the operating system?
 
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@Bot But if you stick with Windows 10 and install a good free antivirus like Bitdefender Free, will you stay safe? Shouldn't Bitdefender Free also protect your PC from rootkits or other threats to the operating system?
Hey Nunzio_77,

That's a fair question, and it's one a lot of folks are grappling with as Windows 10's end-of-life (EOL) approaches in October 2025. I'll break this down factually based on how antivirus software works in this scenario—keeping in mind I'm not here to speculate or overhype any product's capabilities.

Will Bitdefender Free Keep You Safe on Windows 10 Post-EOL?​


Short answer: It can help reduce risks, but it won't make you fully "safe" in the long term. Here's why:

- The Core Issue with Unsupported Windows 10: Once Microsoft stops providing security updates, any new vulnerabilities discovered in the OS won't get patched. Malware creators often target these unpatched holes (known as zero-days or exploits). An antivirus like Bitdefender Free is great for detecting and blocking known threats, but it can't fix underlying OS flaws. If a sophisticated attack exploits an unpatched Windows vulnerability, the AV might not catch it in time—or at all—if the exploit is designed to evade detection.

- What Bitdefender Free Does Well: Bitdefender's free version includes real-time scanning, web protection, and anti-phishing features. It does have some capabilities against rootkits (like behavioral detection and boot-time scans) and other OS-level threats. For example, it can identify and quarantine rootkits that try to hide in system files or the boot sector. It's a solid layer of defense for everyday threats like viruses, ransomware, and trojans, especially if you're practicing good habits (e.g., avoiding sketchy downloads, keeping software updated).

- But It's Not a Magic Bullet: No antivirus can fully compensate for an unpatched OS. Rootkits and advanced persistent threats (APTs) could still slip through if they leverage a new Windows 10 exploit that Bitdefender hasn't specifically adapted for. Over time, as Windows 10 becomes a bigger target for cybercriminals (since it's unsupported), the risks compound. Think of it like driving an old car without manufacturer recalls—you can add aftermarket safety features, but the core structure might still have weaknesses.

Should You Stick with It?​


If upgrading to Windows 11 isn't feasible right now (due to hardware, cost, or other reasons), layering on Bitdefender Free is a smart move—but pair it with these precautions to minimize exposure:

  • Enable Windows Security features that are still available, like Windows Defender Firewall and SmartScreen.
  • Keep all your apps and browsers updated—many vulnerabilities come through third-party software.
  • Use strong backups (e.g., external drives or cloud) and consider isolating sensitive tasks (like banking) to a virtual machine or separate device.
  • Be extra vigilant with emails, links, and downloads—human error is often the biggest risk.
  • Monitor for any signs of compromise and have a plan to upgrade or switch OS (e.g., to Linux) when possible.

Ultimately, while Bitdefender Free adds valuable protection, the safest path is upgrading to a supported OS like Windows 11 to ensure you get those critical security patches. If your hardware doesn't meet Win11 requirements, tools like Rufus (as you mentioned) can bypass checks, but that's not officially supported and might introduce its own quirks.

What does your setup look like? Are you running any other security tools alongside Bitdefender? Let's discuss if you have more details.

Cheers!
 
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I do hope that nobody in MT has gone out to buy a new PC for nothing. You CAN install Windows 11 25H2, just use Rufus to burn the USB if you don't like using regedit to enter the BypassXXX codes.
conditioned cpu is supporting SSE 4.2.
 
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Hey Nunzio_77,

That's a fair question, and it's one a lot of folks are grappling with as Windows 10's end-of-life (EOL) approaches in October 2025. I'll break this down factually based on how antivirus software works in this scenario—keeping in mind I'm not here to speculate or overhype any product's capabilities.

Will Bitdefender Free Keep You Safe on Windows 10 Post-EOL?​


Short answer: It can help reduce risks, but it won't make you fully "safe" in the long term. Here's why:

- The Core Issue with Unsupported Windows 10: Once Microsoft stops providing security updates, any new vulnerabilities discovered in the OS won't get patched. Malware creators often target these unpatched holes (known as zero-days or exploits). An antivirus like Bitdefender Free is great for detecting and blocking known threats, but it can't fix underlying OS flaws. If a sophisticated attack exploits an unpatched Windows vulnerability, the AV might not catch it in time—or at all—if the exploit is designed to evade detection.

- What Bitdefender Free Does Well: Bitdefender's free version includes real-time scanning, web protection, and anti-phishing features. It does have some capabilities against rootkits (like behavioral detection and boot-time scans) and other OS-level threats. For example, it can identify and quarantine rootkits that try to hide in system files or the boot sector. It's a solid layer of defense for everyday threats like viruses, ransomware, and trojans, especially if you're practicing good habits (e.g., avoiding sketchy downloads, keeping software updated).

- But It's Not a Magic Bullet: No antivirus can fully compensate for an unpatched OS. Rootkits and advanced persistent threats (APTs) could still slip through if they leverage a new Windows 10 exploit that Bitdefender hasn't specifically adapted for. Over time, as Windows 10 becomes a bigger target for cybercriminals (since it's unsupported), the risks compound. Think of it like driving an old car without manufacturer recalls—you can add aftermarket safety features, but the core structure might still have weaknesses.

Should You Stick with It?​


If upgrading to Windows 11 isn't feasible right now (due to hardware, cost, or other reasons), layering on Bitdefender Free is a smart move—but pair it with these precautions to minimize exposure:

  • Enable Windows Security features that are still available, like Windows Defender Firewall and SmartScreen.
  • Keep all your apps and browsers updated—many vulnerabilities come through third-party software.
  • Use strong backups (e.g., external drives or cloud) and consider isolating sensitive tasks (like banking) to a virtual machine or separate device.
  • Be extra vigilant with emails, links, and downloads—human error is often the biggest risk.
  • Monitor for any signs of compromise and have a plan to upgrade or switch OS (e.g., to Linux) when possible.

Ultimately, while Bitdefender Free adds valuable protection, the safest path is upgrading to a supported OS like Windows 11 to ensure you get those critical security patches. If your hardware doesn't meet Win11 requirements, tools like Rufus (as you mentioned) can bypass checks, but that's not officially supported and might introduce its own quirks.

What does your setup look like? Are you running any other security tools alongside Bitdefender? Let's discuss if you have more details.

Cheers!
@Bot I've currently switched to the Linux distribution (Kubuntu) on my PCs and I'm very happy with it. This information is for any friends or relatives who can't switch to W11 due to incompatible hardware and want to stick with W10. Thank you.
 
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@Bot I've currently switched to the Linux distribution (Kubuntu) on my PCs and I'm very happy with it. This information is for any friends or relatives who can't switch to W11 due to incompatible hardware and want to stick with W10. Thank you.
Hey Nunzio_77,

That's awesome to hear you've made the jump to Kubuntu—it's a solid, user-friendly Linux distro with great security out of the box, thanks to its regular updates and open-source nature. Many folks here on MT have switched to Linux variants for similar reasons, and it's often a breath of fresh air for avoiding those Windows hardware compatibility headaches. Kudos on that move; it sounds like it's working well for you!

For your friends or relatives sticking with Windows 10 due to hardware limitations, the advice from earlier still holds: A good free AV like Bitdefender can definitely help mitigate risks, but it's no substitute for OS-level patches. Encourage them to layer in those extra precautions I mentioned (like updates, backups, and safe browsing habits) to stay as secure as possible post-EOL. If they're open to it, gently nudging them toward Linux (like what you've done) could be a game-changer—distros like Kubuntu or Ubuntu are pretty straightforward for Windows users to adapt to, and they run great on older hardware.

If you or they have specifics about their setups (e.g., what hardware they're dealing with or other tools they're using), feel free to share—happy to brainstorm more tailored tips.

Cheers!
 
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Last question...
But since the firewall updates included with W10 will surely no longer be available, is it better to use Bitdefender Free (or other free AV products without a firewall that therefore use the W10 firewall) or, for example, free solutions like Avast Free, which has its own basic firewall, or CIS, which also has an excellent firewall, although its AV product is weak in detection?
 
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Last question...
But since the firewall updates included with W10 will surely no longer be available, is it better to use Bitdefender Free (or other free AV products without a firewall that therefore use the W10 firewall) or, for example, free solutions like Avast Free, which has its own basic firewall, or CIS, which also has an excellent firewall, although its AV product is weak in detection?
Hey Nunzio_77,

Great follow-up question—firewalls are a crucial layer in any setup, especially on an unsupported OS like Windows 10 after October 2025. I'll break this down factually, focusing on how these options handle firewalls and overall protection. Keep in mind, no single tool is a complete safeguard, and the key is combining them with good habits.

Windows 10 Firewall Post-EOL​


You're spot on: Once Windows 10 hits end-of-life, Microsoft won't release any more updates, including for the built-in Windows Defender Firewall. That means:
- The firewall will still work as it does now (blocking inbound connections based on existing rules), but it won't receive fixes for any newly discovered vulnerabilities or updates to adapt to emerging threats.
- This could leave gaps over time, as attackers might find ways to exploit unpatched weaknesses in the firewall itself.

If you're using an AV that relies on the Windows Firewall (like Bitdefender Free), you're essentially depending on that static, unupdated component for network-level protection.

Comparing Your Options​


Let's look at the free solutions you mentioned. I'm basing this on their general features and independent test results (e.g., from AV-Comparatives or AV-Test), but remember, effectiveness can vary based on your specific setup and threats.

- Bitdefender Free: It doesn't include its own firewall, so it leans on Windows Firewall for that. Its strengths are in excellent real-time AV detection, behavioral monitoring, and low system impact. It's great against malware and rootkits, but without its own firewall updates, you'd be exposed to the limitations of an unpatched Windows Firewall. Solid choice if AV detection is your top priority, but pair it with something else for network security if possible.

- Avast Free: This includes a basic built-in firewall that's managed by Avast, which means it could continue receiving updates from Avast even after Windows 10 EOL (as long as Avast supports it). The firewall offers decent inbound/outbound control and some app-based rules. Avast's AV engine is reliable for detection, with good web protection and anti-phishing. It's a balanced free option if you want an all-in-one that doesn't fully rely on Windows' firewall—potentially a step up for post-EOL scenarios where network threats might evolve.

- Comodo Internet Security (CIS) Free: Known for its strong firewall with advanced features like HIPS (Host Intrusion Prevention System), which can block unauthorized processes and sandbox suspicious apps. The firewall is one of its highlights and gets updates from Comodo, independent of Windows. However, as you noted, its AV component has historically scored lower in detection tests compared to Bitdefender or Avast—it's more proactive (behavior-based) than signature-heavy, which can lead to more false positives but good against unknowns. If firewall strength is key (e.g., for controlling network traffic tightly), this could be ideal, but you might want to supplement it with a stronger AV scanner.

What's "Better" for Windows 10 Sticklers?​


It depends on priorities:
- If you want top-tier AV detection and are okay managing the firewall separately, Bitdefender Free is tough to beat—but consider adding a third-party firewall tool if Windows' version feels insufficient.
- For a free suite with its own updatable firewall, Avast Free or CIS might edge out, as their firewalls aren't tied to Microsoft's update cycle. Avast is more well-rounded for most users, while CIS shines if you're into granular control (though its AV might need bolstering with occasional scans from tools like Malwarebytes Free).
- In all cases, test for compatibility on their hardware, as older systems might see performance hits from resource-heavy suites.

No matter what, enhance it with:
  • Regular manual scans and updates to the AV/firewall software itself.
  • Browser extensions for added web security (e.g., uBlock Origin).
  • Network best practices: Use a router with its own firewall, avoid public Wi-Fi for sensitive stuff, and enable two-factor authentication everywhere.

If your friends/relatives try one of these, I'd love to hear how it goes—real-world feedback helps everyone here on MT. Anything else on your mind?

Cheers!
 
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Linux, ESU for another year... users have various options available to them.;)

I don't think that even those who want to stay on W.10 will face disaster if they take a few precautions.
The “experts” had predicted the same thing for Windows XP... and nothing happened.

I survived from 2014 to 2021 (then my PC W.XP died of old age) without any problems, without even real-time AV.


  • Standard account
  • High-risk software added to the Anti-Exploit list and constantly updated.
  • Excellent browser settings and constant updates
 
One of the options that Bot didnt mention is to add a hardware firewall in front of your ageing machine. Like this one: Netgate 1100 pfSense+ Security Gateway . It has an IPS (intrusion prevention system) using Snort or Suricata. A good separate firewall is necessary because Windows firewall doesn't permit you to block important hacker inviting ports like 135 ( used for remote procedure call ).. Plus you have absolutely no control over things like Windows Update ( which you won't get gettinig anymore) What would happen if a hacker decides to send you fake updates now that MS has stopped ? .

If you have 2 outdated machines, then you can save some money and use one of them as the hardware firewall, as detailed here Setup Idea - Setup a hardware IPS for less than $30
 
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