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<blockquote data-quote="ForgottenSeer 58943" data-source="post: 917942">Remember, there are many products using Avira now, that switched off from Bit Defender for various reasons. Bullguard switched to Avira signatures for their 2020 version, dumping Bit Defender. Norton had a really good go of it lately up until the later part of this year when their detection&#039;s seemed to drop and the product actually got a bit heavier. Overall Norton was actually pretty good. Ultimately, if we use mergers and acquisitions of the past as our guidance, we don&#039;t need to be oracles to see this is bad news for Avira and consumers in general.Also remember, this places Avira, a German AV under the jurisdiction of the USA, which is a no-go for a lot of folks around the world. Avira was actually pretty popular overseas for people not wanting to use US based antivirus products and they actually had pretty significant penetration in middle eastern countries. At one time in the past the Avira CEO started he would move the company elsewhere rather than compromise his company policies regarding intelligence backdoors and spying.Of the few people I know using Avira, they&#039;re looking elsewhere now. Of the people I know using Avira engine products, they are getting concerned about where this is going, and how those companies (like F-Secure, Bullguard, etc) are looking to license from with this change.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ForgottenSeer 58943, post: 917942"] Remember, there are many products using Avira now, that switched off from Bit Defender for various reasons. Bullguard switched to Avira signatures for their 2020 version, dumping Bit Defender. Norton had a really good go of it lately up until the later part of this year when their detection's seemed to drop and the product actually got a bit heavier. Overall Norton was actually pretty good. Ultimately, if we use mergers and acquisitions of the past as our guidance, we don't need to be oracles to see this is bad news for Avira and consumers in general. Also remember, this places Avira, a German AV under the jurisdiction of the USA, which is a no-go for a lot of folks around the world. Avira was actually pretty popular overseas for people not wanting to use US based antivirus products and they actually had pretty significant penetration in middle eastern countries. At one time in the past the Avira CEO started he would move the company elsewhere rather than compromise his company policies regarding intelligence backdoors and spying. Of the few people I know using Avira, they're looking elsewhere now. Of the people I know using Avira engine products, they are getting concerned about where this is going, and how those companies (like F-Secure, Bullguard, etc) are looking to license from with this change. [/QUOTE]

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