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<blockquote data-quote="Zero Knowledge" data-source="post: 1073397" data-attributes="member: 57429">The problem is not democratic western liberal governments who have regulations, laws and rules. You know lawyers and policy makers go over every offensive cyber operation and surveillance program before giving the go ahead and then you have judges who rule on lawfulness of programs/operations and issue warrants.The problem is the other side, anti democratic authoritarian regimes that use technology to oppress and suppress people without any oversight. When no one is watching bad things happen!You do know posting on a security forum about privacy and the NSA will probably get noticed and yes they do care and yes it is their business what people think/talk about. They are called intelligence agencies for a reason <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite132" alt=":unsure:" title="Unsure&nbsp; &nbsp; :unsure:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":unsure:" />You do realize that staying &quot;off grid&quot; and off the internet would land you on a watch list. They are always looking for the next uni-bomber type. Plenty of anti-government people out&nbsp; there to watch.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Zero Knowledge, post: 1073397, member: 57429"] The problem is not democratic western liberal governments who have regulations, laws and rules. You know lawyers and policy makers go over every offensive cyber operation and surveillance program before giving the go ahead and then you have judges who rule on lawfulness of programs/operations and issue warrants. The problem is the other side, anti democratic authoritarian regimes that use technology to oppress and suppress people without any oversight. When no one is watching bad things happen! You do know posting on a security forum about privacy and the NSA will probably get noticed and yes they do care and yes it is their business what people think/talk about. They are called intelligence agencies for a reason :unsure: You do realize that staying "off grid" and off the internet would land you on a watch list. They are always looking for the next uni-bomber type. Plenty of anti-government people out there to watch. [/QUOTE]

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