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Jonny Quest

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Will using a VPN or a DNS server help, personally, and also in using Brave? Let alone staying off of the greater data harvesting sites?

edit: It probably doesn't matter if we're keeping ourselves private, as once we hit a website that information of the site visited, links clicked etc. is what NSA is looking at.
 
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The problem is not democratic western liberal governments who have regulations, laws and rules. You know lawyers and policy makers go over every offensive cyber operation and surveillance program before giving the go ahead and then you have judges who rule on lawfulness of programs/operations and issue warrants.

The problem is the other side, anti democratic authoritarian regimes that use technology to oppress and suppress people without any oversight. When no one is watching bad things happen!

And you'll see people say "who cares? I'm not doing anything suspicious," not realizing that what you do or where you go isn't the point. What you browse, or what you do online is none of their business.
You do know posting on a security forum about privacy and the NSA will probably get noticed and yes they do care and yes it is their business what people think/talk about. They are called intelligence agencies for a reason :unsure:

Only one way to keep your info private...stay off the internet.
You do realize that staying "off grid" and off the internet would land you on a watch list. They are always looking for the next uni-bomber type. Plenty of anti-government people out there to watch.
 

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The problem is not democratic western liberal governments who have regulations, laws and rules. You know lawyers and policy makers go over every offensive cyber operation and surveillance program before giving the go ahead and then you have judges who rule on lawfulness of programs/operations and issue warrants.

The problem is the other side, anti democratic authoritarian regimes that use technology to oppress and suppress people without any oversight. When no one is watching bad things happen!


You do know posting on a security forum about privacy and the NSA will probably get noticed and yes they do care and yes it is their business what people think/talk about. They are called intelligence agencies for a reason :unsure:


You do realize that staying "off grid" and off the internet would land you on a watch list. They are always looking for the next uni-bomber type. Plenty of anti-government people out there to watch.
Staying off grid and off the internet does not mean that you are anti-government, maybe it just means you don't care about that crap.
 

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Related:


  • The Five Eyes countries: the US, the UK, Canada, New Zealand, Australia.
  • The Nine Eyes countries include the Fives Eyes members plus Denmark, France, the Netherlands, and Norway.
  • The Fourteen Eyes include the Nine Eyes members plus Germany, Belgium, Italy, Sweden, and Spain.

Also,

All data that any of these countries collect about you has the potential to be shared with any other Eyes country. This policy of data sharing gives the intelligence agencies a lot of leeway to act beyond the bounds of the law and helps them create all kinds of surveillance schemes.
 

Freki123

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The problem is not democratic western liberal governments who have regulations, laws and rules. You know lawyers and policy makers go over every offensive cyber operation and surveillance program before giving the go ahead and then you have judges who rule on lawfulness of programs/operations and issue warrants.
In a perfect world it may work that way. It's more like you have a government that pass regulations that then gets revoked years later (by maybe the highest court of your country or EU) only to try the law that got revoked again (only with a slight twist). E.g the German data preservation act "Vorratsdatenspeicherung"
While judges sometimes have for a lot of stuff they sign like one minute time at all or don't understand the topic in all detail.
Tldr: There are checks and balances that sadly not always work the way they should.
 

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While judges sometimes have for a lot of stuff they sign like one minute time at all or don't understand the topic in all detail.
Tldr: There are checks and balances that sadly not always work the way they should.
But the checks and regulations are there even though they may not be used in the proper way or implemented correctly. I agree with you on the judges part though, most if not all have very little knowledge or comprehension of anything cyber related besides checking their email and using MS Office. But as millennials become the dominant group in the world that will improve I would argue and they will bring their knowledge about anything related cyber to their role as a judge. Things keep moving forward, and progress is guaranteed.
 
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This will most likely be an unpopular opinion, but as my user name suggests...

Going out into the Internet should be viewed much the same as leaving ones home and going into public. One does not "expect" privacy with the latter and doing the former is no different.
 

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I was perusing and came upon Practical Response's comment In new posts.

Is there more a data exhaust scenario or purchasing full-length records?

On a lighter note, I want Planatir to have a song similar to the ones in Captain Planet about collecting private data.
 

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