Battle Qihoo 360 Internet Security vs Emsisoft Antimalware

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MikeV

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Hi Everyone.
I am very curious to know if 360 IS is equal to Emsisoft Antimalware because:
1) BOTH uses Bitdefender engine.
2) BOTH have behavior blocker
3) BOTH uses their own engine
4) BOTH uses cloud (360) and community (Emsisoft) alerts.
5) BOTH have excellent detection rate
I know it is unfair to test free vs paid antivirus products, but these two seems to be very similar.
So it will be much appreciated if someone make a comparison test between these 2 software.
I am really curious to see the result........

Thank you all in advance!!!! ;)
Mike
 

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@Koroke San Ok, After Reading your opinion in this thread, i am thinking of giving a try to 360 Total Security.
Check out my config - In Signatures.
Whats your opinion.

I keep tell you all that 360TS does not have the power of 360IS, 360TS have a long way to go before it can knock over the power of 360IS.
if you read this post by cruelsister then you may understand what i'm tell you all, happy hunting:):):)
 

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As most here I'm sure are already aware, Qihoo now comes in different forms. 360 Total Security (TS) has been released now out of Beta, while 360 Internet Security is also available. But please note that 360IS currently comes in two flavors, the standard version 4.9 and a beta (version 5). The major differences are that TS has an additional AV engine (Avira), while 360IS (both flavors) has an on-demand sandbox. Both TS and IS have Proactive Protection. So the points that should be discussed are Sandboxing, AV Detection rates, and Proactive Protection.

1). Sandbox- I will concede that Qihoo's on-demand sandbox may have some value (throwing a browser into it), but for me the virtualization routines used are far from adequate, especially when compared to Sandboxie or the boxes found in Comodo products. While not going into tedious detail, be aware that malware designed to evade sandboxes are coded to be aware of their environments; a sandbox that presents a more realistic system environment to the malware will yield the best defense (Comodo, SB). A more restrictively structured box (Qihoo) will allow the malware to "know" it is being contained and cause triggering of evasion countermeasures. An analogy here would be a person locked in a jail cell versus the same person living in the Matrix. You would attempt to break out of one but proceed in total contentment in the other.

In short, not a fan of Qihoo sandbox.

2). AV Detection- Indeed TS adds Avira to the engines already in place. To be worth having an additional engine must show that it is additive to the detection that is already in place. So far although I have seen a greater number of malware being detected it has not yielded any statistical significance, so is of dubious value in real world use.

3). Proactive Protection- This for me was the most annoying part in testing. It was difficult enough to find a specific malware type that Qihoo didn't already detect, but even when I did find some by the time I ran the samples, did the post boot forensic analysis and reran the routine to ensure reproducibility very often Qihoo Cloud would detect it on the third run. I really wish they were lazy.

But enough whining- On deciding how exactly to conduct a meaningful test of Proactive defenses I looked for not some obscure trojan, but instead samples of a class that in addition to being common, always operate in the same way. It also had to exploit the weaknesses that I've encountered in the TS beta and to a lesser extent in the IS 4.9 build, that being the inability to prevent registry changes that would lead to system infection. Next to code injection (which Q's Proactive is sensitive to) the autorunning of payloads is the most common.

To this end I chose a popular Fake AV line which for the past few months has been ubiquitous. This type operates by the following:
a). The parent malware file is run.
b). It will spawn a daughter (the payload) somewhere on the drive (normally in Roaming)
c). It will create an autorun routine (often including run in Safe Mode)
d). It will create entries to stop things like Windows Firewall, Defender, and Task Manager from being able to be run (hijacks).

The test from here is easy: Qihoo had no definition for it, so the parent could be run (and the Fake AV screen would appear, necessitating a reboot). A Pass would be the malware not running on reboot as well as no registry changes. A Fail is the malware staring on reboot and/or other registry changes.

1). Qihoo IS 4.9- Let the Fake AV load on boot. Suppressed other registry changes- FAIL
2). Qihoo TS- Let all through- FAIL
3). Qihoo IS 5 beta- Prevented malware autostart, prevented hijacks. Did leave an orphaned daughter in Roaming- PASS

Have a good Weekend (time to dance)!


THIS is information by CruelSister once more:p:p:p
Source: http://malwaretips.com/threads/regarding-qihoo.26820/
 

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I keep tell you all that 360TS does not have the power of 360IS, 360TS have a long way to go before it can knock over the power of 360IS.
if you read this post by cruelsister then you may understand what i'm tell you all, happy hunting:):):)


I agree.....I believe 360 IS is more better, but when Total security will be completed and finalized then things will change (i quess)
 

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I keep tell you all that 360TS does not have the power of 360IS, 360TS have a long way to go before it can knock over the power of 360IS.
if you read this post by cruelsister then you may understand what i'm tell you all, happy hunting:):):)
If u notice on their website, Qihoo IS didn't get updates after jaunary so i ditch it, they are concering on Qihoo TS & updating it time by time plus Qihoo TS protection is same as Qihoo IS. I also tested it before & it proactive detection failed compare to IS version but now it strong as IS. what it lacks in proactive defense where IS version is one step closer compare to TS version but since they updateing TS version time by time i'm preety dame sure that TS will get fully matured in next 1-2 months. btw in my test qihoo TS block ever suspicious malware registry changes.
 

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360TS right now is not consistent if you check malware hub test results by different 360TS users you will see nuff inconsistencies in it's detection, i have been watching 360TS closely one must observe a program in it's entirety before classing it with a program that has been in some serious battles & come out on top with a few false positives that give critics & haters an opportunity to bump their gums:):):) In life once anything or anyone is trying to bring about something thats good, there always a set of people that try their best to bring it down,acknowledgement is the key,the hardest thing is to know.:p:p:p
 
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Koroke San

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False positive exist in every AV also in IS version & Chinese version using avira engine. Plus i test myself & deiced what is better, i don't believe if someone say blah blah AV is better then others. plus wut i see qihho TS & qihoo IS are always same in detection coz it's cloud & QVMII engine are pretty good. Proactive & realtime protection changes so much. Before TS didn't show any prompt when a malware try to make chnages in registry or when i try to unzip a malware samples but it now quarantine malware when i try to unzip malware samples like IS plus it did warn me when a unknown application tried to changes my stratup. So thing changes much. wut they are doing is making a copy of Chinese version but Chinese version is more mature then English version of IS & TS also it get fastest software/virus definition updates :)
 
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UMBRA VS EVERYBODY

system said :
"3...2...1...FIGHT ! "

Umbra said : Qihoo vs EIS... ummmm interesting ...

Qihoo and Avast with Hardened Mode :D

system said: 4-Hit Combo

I agree.....I believe 360 IS is more better, but when Total security will be completed and finalized then things will change (i quess)

system: "8-Hits COMBOOO"

umbra said: seriously ?! does anybody remember that EIS can STILL be a companion AV... :whistle:

system said: "CCCCCOOOOOMMMMBOOOOOO-BREAKER !!!"

umbra: So Qihoo IS (with Avira) < EIS + whatever you want :D


System said:
" ULTIMATE COMBOOOO !!! Finish Him !!!"

umbra: so for example: EIS + ESET NOD32... :whistle: :D


system: "UMBRA WIN , FATAL VICTORY"
 
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Manzai

UMBRA VS EVERYBODY

system said :
"3...2...1...FIGHT ! "

Umbra said : Qihoo vs EIS... ummmm interesting ...



system said: 4-Hit Combo



system: "8-Hits COMBOOO"

umbra said: seriously ?! does anybody remember that EIS can STILL be a companion AV... :whistle:

system said: "CCCCCOOOOOMMMMBOOOOOO-BREAKER !!!"

umbra: So Qihoo IS (with Avira) < EIS + whatever you want :D


System said:
" ULTIMATE COMBOOOO !!! Finish Him !!!"

umbra: so for example: EIS + ESET NOD32... :whistle: :D


system: "UMBRA WIN , FATAL VICTORY"

Haha :D
 
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Both are excellent, but Emsisoft has many advantages.
Some of them, in my opinion: Emsisoft receive updates bitdefender engine in near real time, very near the full, 95% full (do not know how the contract), Qihoo takes forever to get, and still not receive nor half of the signatures, take a package of MalwareTips here, disable the internet and do a scan, this will be the detection rate. Proactive defense Emsisoft is well in excess of Qihoo. Url filter Emsisoft even though weak, is still much higher than Qihoo. Emsisoft has a choice of cloud and also responds very fast submission
Qihoo think I have a small advantage to your engine in the cloud against the Emsisoft The engine and is a bit lighter.
I would stay with Emsisoft, Emsisoft would be in doubt between Qihoo and TS (upsets that bug me with the engines do not update ...). I apologize for my English ...
 
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NSG001

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No contest IMHO
Emsisoft products get better each time, and their development team are very receptive and helpful!

Anyhow always best to test in your own environment than rely on 'YouTube' tests :)
 
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BOTH uses Bitdefender engine.
BOTH have behavior blocker
BOTH uses their own engine
BOTH uses cloud (360) and community (Emsisoft) alerts.
BOTH have excellent detection rate
 
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