Sandboxie VS COMODO Sandbox.
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I'm actually using both right now.
Digsby is sandboxed by both as is Java. Seems to be working fine.
Digsby is sandboxed by both as is Java. Seems to be working fine.
I agree with Heffe. It's not about "better" but about what suits that specific program and/or user.
On a sports team if you compared two players, #1 scoring on every gameHeffeD said:bo.elam said:
No...
That says I think Sandboxie is more configurable. Nothing more, nothing less.
and #2 scoring once every five games, if I am asked which player is better,
it would not make sense if I said, the player that scores more often is not
better, its just that he scores every day.
Cheers
Bo
bo.elam said:
:huh:
I'm really not sure how configurability decreases the chances of something escaping the sandbox...
OK, I didn't understand the point of your sports analogy. You're somehow implying that Sandboxie scores more often? :s
Here's a real-world analogy of what I am saying about the difference between Sandboxie and Comodo. I use an electric razor instead of a blade. Does this mean I think electrics are better? No, it's just more convenient so I use it.
http://www.sandboxie.com/index.php?RestrictionsSettings#overviewHeffeD said:
Having more options for configurations is like scoring more often.
Configurations in SBIE make its sandbox have better chances for
keeping anything from escaping.
From the link:
"You can place additional restrictions on programs, to tighten the
security of the sandbox".
I do believe every one of those words, I guess you dont.
Bo
The thing about Comodo si that you might be stuck on Limited instead of Restricted due to a single setting when there couldbe multiple changes.
With sandboxie you get to check off the individual things.
More configurability also means more user error often.
With sandboxie you get to check off the individual things.
More configurability also means more user error often.
bo.elam said:
-Sigh-
I think you're completely missing the point.
If you really want to get technical, remember that Comodo's sandbox has all the power of Defense+ behind it. You can 'tighten up' your sandbox all you want. Every single bit of control you have over an application through the HIPS can be brought to bear on applications in the sandbox. I can restrict sandboxed programs up the wazoo with D+!
Perhaps I should have specified which type of configurability I was talking about. I mean usability things like automatically deleting the contents of a sandbox if I close an application, or mulitple sandboxes, or some sort of indication on an applications window that it is in the sandbox... I don't mean that Sandboxie gives me any upper hand when it comes to the security of the sandbox.
:sI thought we were talking Sandbox, now you bring Defense+ into theHeffeD said:
game. Heffe, I use SBIE alone, nothing else and run as an administrator.
Would you do the same, would you feel confident enough to run Comodos
manual sandbox on its own(No AV, No Defense+, No FW) or not and run as
an adm?.
Bo
We are talking about the sandbox. You can't get the sandbox without CIS. No need to cut off our nose to spite our face. If the tools are there, we're fools not to utilize them.
Would I run things in the manual sandbox without an AV, HIPS, Firewall, as an admin? No, of course not. I wouldn't do it with Sandboxie either...
Would I run things in the manual sandbox without an AV, HIPS, Firewall, as an admin? No, of course not. I wouldn't do it with Sandboxie either...
My experience proves that this can be done using dedicated restricted sandboxesHeffeD said:We are talking about the sandbox. You can't get the sandbox without CIS. No need to cut off our nose to spite our face. If the tools are there, we're fools not to utilize them.
Would I run things in the manual sandbox without an AV, HIPS, Firewall, as an admin? No, of course not. I wouldn't do it with Sandboxie either...
with very little brain work required. Try it sometime, you might get to like it.
Take care friend
Bo
Being a dedicated sandboxing application, Sandboxie is much more customizable and this means that you will be able to run a wider range of software applications inside it and run them just the way you want it (for example you might want to allow direct access to your bookmarks file when sandboxing your browser, while still preventing other files on your system from being changed).
As for running a VM inside a sandbox, a virtual machine is already an isolated environment and should prevent your system from being infected. It is theoretically possible to encounter malware that exploits vulnerabilities that the VM has and try to escape virtualization so you should keep your VM software up to date. Install some good protection on your host (HIPS, EMET2) and have a backup that you can use to restore your real system. I think this is much better than running a VM inside a sandbox.
As for running a VM inside a sandbox, a virtual machine is already an isolated environment and should prevent your system from being infected. It is theoretically possible to encounter malware that exploits vulnerabilities that the VM has and try to escape virtualization so you should keep your VM software up to date. Install some good protection on your host (HIPS, EMET2) and have a backup that you can use to restore your real system. I think this is much better than running a VM inside a sandbox.
RE: Sandboxie vs Sandboxie of CIS
Since the sandbox hasn't changed in 5.9, all of the previous discussions still apply.
I'm hoping that version 6 brings about a more full-featured sandbox, but at the moment, I'm still using Sandboxie.
ocsi said:
Since the sandbox hasn't changed in 5.9, all of the previous discussions still apply.
I'm hoping that version 6 brings about a more full-featured sandbox, but at the moment, I'm still using Sandboxie.
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