Sevenknight claiming to be better than voodooshield

CMLew

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#23
To give the benefit of doubt rather than trashing the person who "claimed" A is better than B or vice versa; Im just wondering if anyone have done a test comparison instead? Rather than just plain talk?
 

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Okay, I tested. Installed it in VM and ran some malware by it. So since it is an AE, and they say they are better then VS, how did it stack up against VS and ERP
First when you install you almost have kill any other security software. So much for layers.

When you throw an unknown at it it catches it an alerts. The simple catch is just a yeah or neah. Yes lets it run and No blocks it. Allowing malware at this point isn't good. But in the advanced options here is there "technology". Not only is there is a yes no option, but also an option called limited that allows you to safely try and run something. Turns out it's a sandbox. The output is written to a new folder in the users are a called Safe Folder. Everything that was encrypted there. But was it a sandbox comparable to Sandboxie NO!! First I saw no evidence it protected the system like SBIE does, and also if you have data on other drives, it was bye bye. So only C: was protected.

Now both ERP and VS will stop script attacks so I threw a script at this thing. Sailed right on throught. VS and ERP handled command lines, 7k didn't

This is a brief test, but it was enough for me to say NO THANK YOU.
 

danb

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#25
Thank you Pete for your insight.

BTW, it looks like VS was bypassed!!!!!!

Current state of malicious Powershell script blocking

Ooops. Nope, it wasn't. Another false alarm from the testing squad... so the squad's false alarm rate remains at 100%.

Here is why it is not a bypass...

The attacker must be able to automatically run the command prompt or macro... then it will be a bypass.

The problem is that VS is going to block the command prompt or the macro long before the attacker has a chance to run their command line.

Think of it this way... if the user opens a command prompt (which VS allows command prompts if the user launched it), and runs the format d: command, VS will not block that either.

If I am missing something, please let me know.

BTW, White Cipher is just a silly "alter-ego" I came up with in reaction to Black Cipher's youtube videos ;).

VoodooShield ?
 

mlnevese

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#26
Thank you Pete for your insight.

BTW, it looks like VS was bypassed!!!!!!

Current state of malicious Powershell script blocking

Ooops. Nope, it wasn't. Another false alarm from the testing squad... so the squad's false alarm rate remains at 100%.

Here is why it is not a bypass...

The attacker must be able to automatically run the command prompt or macro... then it will be a bypass.

The problem is that VS is going to block the command prompt or the macro long before the attacker has a chance to run their command line.

Think of it this way... if the user opens a command prompt (which VS allows command prompts if the user launched it), and runs the format d: command, VS will not block that either.

If I am missing something, please let me know.

BTW, White Cipher is just a silly "alter-ego" I came up with in reaction to Black Cipher's youtube videos ;).

VoodooShield ?
It's a shield. It should be able to protect the computer even if the user is shooting at it with a gun :)
 
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#27
@danb: cool to come over here, I guess you missed me :D

By the way the marketing of Seventh Knight is called VoodooMarketing. VoodooMarketing is named after Voodoo Economics which was build on President Ronald Reagan's promise to cut tax and increase deregulation and the free market powers would restore the eonomy by themselves. Despite the negative annotation Reagan's supply side policies actually worked and the economy and employment recovered based on higher consumer trust and spendings (less tax) and business initiatives and investments (deregulation).

@Peter2150: The idea of VoodooMarketing is that consumers believe those bold big statements, you are not supposed to check them ;)

Seventh Knight said:
  • Built on a patented “whitelisting” engine originally designed for the U.S. Defense Department
Show me the US patent numbers (like VoodooShield has) and show me the US Army awards (like AppGuard has ), then show me the money (show that SeventhKnight blocks malware where VS and AG fail with tests we can reproduce/fact check)
 
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Peter2150

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@danb: cool to come over here, I guess you missed me :D

By the way the marketing of Seventh Knight is called VoodooMarketing. VoodooMarketing is named after Voodoo Economics which was build on President Ronald Reagan's promise to cut tax and increase deregulation and the free market powers would restore the eonomy by themselves. Despite the negative annotation Reagan's supply side policies actually worked and the economy and employment recovered based on higher consumer trust and spendings (less tax) and business initiatives and investments (deregulation).

@Peter2150: The idea of VoodooMarketing is that consumers believe those bold big statements, you are not supposed to check them ;)
Don't hold your breath on something worth testing
 
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Sadly no one reviewed that yet , atleast no one i know of :( and iam not experienced todo it else i would try
 

bunchuu

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#31
I really dont trust these seriously. it looks like snake oil and crap ware.

its a "security" Bundle thats pretty much a sandbox with whitelist and a game booster

they claim they are a "Generation" ahead of Voodooshield

Seventh Knight | PC Security™ Bundle


its called default deny by comodo and its block my newer office program like powerpoint and word. so sad.