Are SSDs more reliable than HDDs?

  • Yes, significantly more reliable than HDDs

    Votes: 34 69.4%
  • Yes, but only marginally more reliable than HDDs

    Votes: 2 4.1%
  • Very little difference in reliability between SSDs and HDDs

    Votes: 2 4.1%
  • No, SSDs are less reliable than HDDs

    Votes: 11 22.4%
  • Total voters
    49

Digerati

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EC-> Embedded Controller.
As always you use Desktops as a base whereas I use Laptops.
Ummm, actually I specifically said "the notebook's own heat" throwing the sensor reading off.

Much of my experience (and I run a computer repair business and have been a tech since the early 1970s) with computers is with mobile devices. And as you NOW say (previously, you said "most"), "some" laptop makers may label a sensor as "ambient". But it is my experience "most" don't. In fact, I don't remember ever seen it. And just checking a Toshiba, 2 Dells, a Lenova and an HP (and several other old notebook motherboards) in the shop now, we don't see any labeled as such. And running HWiNFO isn't showing any labeled Ambient either. Do you happen to have a model number of one that does?

I am not saying there aren't any - just that "most" don't for again, as Local Host noted, it would make no sense to put an "ambient" sensor in close proximity to any heat generating device. There's no way it could be anywhere near accurate and notebooks are just too small to locate any sensor far enough away. Any accurate sensor would have to be located outside the case and several inches (if not feet) away.

In doing some homework, I see what you mean about pollution and emissions standards in India. I knew it was bad, just not that bad. In fact, 13 of the world's 20 most polluted cities are in India. :( While rules and regulations and emissions standards were developed, it seems it took until 2010 for any to be truly implemented. So while cars made since then are "smart", there are millions and millions still on the road that are not. :( Plus it seems fuel standards are still lacking - not to mention actual enforcement resources are lacking.

But still, the point remains the same. Solid state electronics technologies have been used in vehicles located in virtually all environments around the world for decades, from hot and humid swamps in Louisiana and the Philippines, to unbearable heat in Saudi Arabia and Arizona, to extreme colds of Alaska and Siberia. And while vehicle computer systems fail, typically cars that make it to old age die due to mechanical failure.
 
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Ummm, actually I specifically said "the notebook's own heat" throwing the sensor reading off.

Much of my experience (and I run a computer repair business and have been a tech since the early 1970s) with computers is with mobile devices. And as you NOW say (previously, you said "most"), "some" laptop makers may label a sensor as "ambient". But it is my experience "most" don't. In fact, I don't remember ever seen it. And just checking a Toshiba, 2 Dells, a Lenova and an HP (and several other old notebook motherboards) in the shop now, we don't see any labeled as such. And running HWiNFO isn't showing any labeled Ambient either. Do you happen to have a model number of one that does?

I am not saying there aren't any - just that "most" don't for again, as Local Host noted, it would make no sense to put an "ambient" sensor in close proximity to any heat generating device. There's no way it could be anywhere near accurate and notebooks are just too small to locate any sensor far enough away. Any accurate sensor would have to be located outside the case and several inches (if not feet) away.

In doing some homework, I see what you mean about pollution and emissions standards in India. I knew it was bad, just not that bad. In fact, 13 of the world's 20 most polluted cities are in India. :( While rules and regulations and emissions standards were developed, it seems it took until 2010 for any to be truly implemented. So while cars made since then are "smart", there are millions and millions still on the road that are not. :( Plus it seems fuel standards are still lacking - not to mention actual enforcement resources are lacking.

But still, the point remains the same. Solid state electronics technologies have been used in vehicles located in virtually all environments around the world for decades, from hot and humid swamps in Louisiana and the Philippines, to unbearable heat in Saudi Arabia and Arizona, to extreme colds of Alaska and Siberia. And while vehicle computer systems fail, typically cars that make it to old age die due to mechanical failure.
Take any new models from 7th gen kabylake and Nvidia optimus based laptops from Dell inspiron 15 5xxx or 7xxx or XPS and make sure EC support is checked off in HWINFO.
 
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My 120GB Kingston HyperX SSD for over 4 years still running smooth like day one, replaced from main laptop to fathers, I stressed it much back then with VMware, so 50TB+/- written on its lifespan is already done I believe, so reliability is still top class. For my main laptop I use 250GB Samsung 850 Evo, love it, no signs of failures or problems. My suggestion is to pick one from reputable vendor and you should be good, make sure to have external backups of your valuable data as well.

I had very bad experience with HDDs, couldn't recover my external 500GB Seagate HDD with hundreds of family photos saved when it fell down on floor, it was sad.
 
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Digerati

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Take any new models from 7th gen kabylake and Nvidia optimus based laptops from Dell inspiron 15 5xxx or 7xxx or XPS and make sure EC support is checked off in HWINFO.
Ummm, what are you suggesting here? This has what to do with SSDs?

And I see no reason to ever turn off an embedded controller - unless there are stability issues. And if disabling it does not resolve the stability issues, enable EC Support again.
 

Vasudev

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Ummm, what are you suggesting here? This has what to do with SSDs?

And I see no reason to ever turn off an embedded controller - unless there are stability issues. And if disabling it does not resolve the stability issues, enable EC Support again.
Not at all!
EC sensors wrecks havoc on some dell or HP or Toshiba PCs producing audio glitches and stuttering when you query EC sensor.
 

Digerati

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Not at all!
Yes totally!

Those are rare problems that only happen on a few products. Therefore, it is bad and silly advice to suggest this be disabled on every one of those notebooks without first seeing if there are stability issues. If it ain't broke, don't mess with it!
 

Vasudev

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Yes totally!

Those are rare problems that only happen on a few products. Therefore, it is bad and silly advice to suggest this be disabled on every one of those notebooks without first seeing if there are stability issues. If it ain't broke, don't mess with it!
Querying EC comes at a cost for some they'll see no issue and for others there are.
Usually querying EC provides in-depth info about your hardware just like proprietary SW from manufacturers does.