Serious Discussion Those who recently stopped using Kaspersky, what did you switch to?

Which antivirus provider are you using now?

  • Avast/AVG

    Votes: 3 5.7%
  • Avira

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Bitdefender

    Votes: 6 11.3%
  • Emsisoft

    Votes: 1 1.9%
  • Eset

    Votes: 10 18.9%
  • F-Secure

    Votes: 7 13.2%
  • G Data

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • McAfee

    Votes: 3 5.7%
  • Norton

    Votes: 8 15.1%
  • Trend Micro

    Votes: 1 1.9%
  • Windows Defender

    Votes: 6 11.3%
  • ZoneAlarm

    Votes: 1 1.9%
  • Other

    Votes: 7 13.2%

  • Total voters
    53

roger_m

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Dec 4, 2014
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I switched from Kaspersky to the new Avast based Norton, a couple of months ago. I am liking it so far and it is very light. Maybe I'll use Kaspersky again someday though. Because I don't live in the US, I'm not affected by the ban, but I was getting too many alerts for my liking and decided to switch products, rather than tweaking the settings to reduce the amount of alerts when installing software.
 

brambedkar59

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Apr 16, 2017
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I'm not affected by the ban, but I was getting too many alerts for my liking and decided to switch products, rather than tweaking the settings to reduce the amount of alerts when installing software.
This is why I am using the free version instead of the Premium, it was too chatty for my taste.

PS not affected by the ban.
 

Smoke

Level 4
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Well-known
Dec 7, 2014
178
I didn't switch because of the ban I just wanted to try out some different products (mainly firewalls) and for now at least I'm on Avast as their firewall does what I want it to. That being said I would probably use ZoneAlarm NextGen if the firewall had the settings/features I want.
 

lokamoka820

Level 21
Mar 1, 2024
1,060
I use Microsoft Defender not because it is the best, but because every other free AV have some negatives, Kaspersky have too many alerts for me, Avast blocks a lot of my website "false positive" and I don't like its smart scan, Bitdefender heavy on ram and have big signatures to download, Avira don't allow you to control notifications so you will get ads.
 

Miravi

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Thread author
Aug 31, 2024
4
I didn't mention it in the OP, but I am affected by the ban. I still like Kaspersky's approach.

It turns out I may not be able to settle on Avast after all. It does have some nice qualities, though. The antivirus/security suite market sure isn't what it used to be.
 

RRlight

Level 1
May 11, 2024
41
Loyal user, still using Kaspersky on my Windows laptop(many years already), having a Bitdefender installed on my MacBook since ppl saying it takes little CPU and RAM on macOS.
Would need to think about which one to use for Win if I can’t use K anymore. Maybe Microsoft Defender, Bitdefender, Eset or Avast. Not too much reason for me to keep using Windows actually, only reasons are Games and expandable storage.macOS seems cool to me, no ad, fewer malware, better organized file management etc.
 
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bazang

Level 6
Jul 3, 2024
265
Any on that list will provide decent protection. It really comes down to what the user(s) decide they want, if they want to tweak or harden, if it does not cause problems, if they like it, etc. Is the user a scripter, a developer, an administrator, or just an average person off the street? What is the system used for? Is the user a prolific downloader of files? Is the physical system 10 or 15 years old, or is it less than 5 years old? And so on.

If you are paranoid and think nation states are trying to hack you to death, then either use heavily default-deny tweaked native Windows or set Emsisoft behavior blocker to Alert Always (the only non-Microsoft security solution that has prevented various nation-state attacks, such as FinSpy (and others not to be listed)). Either of these will cover a broad spectrum of potential attacks with few chinks in the armor - as long as the user has the knowledge and does their part.

If you lean towards usability without issues then default or tweaked Windows Defender or F-Secure.

Why do I personally use F-Secure?

1. I like it. It works for me. It meets my needs. Solving issues is easy.
2. It exist without conflict besides native Windows security and Defender.
3. It provides protections that Windows Defender does not, even tweaked.
4. I am a mundane, low-risk user that impalements and practices high security via Defense-in-Depth.
5. It is low resource intensive.
6. Support is responsive.
7. I report problems and they get fixed within timeframes that are within industry standards (e.g. a few months or less).
8. It has been the least PITA internet security suite that I've ever used.
9. For geopolitical reasons, I am OK with a Finland-based vendor.

It's not perfect, but it is close enough for me. I don't allow others to influence my decision; what I choose is done solely on the consideration of all data points, and then my own self-performed security and pentest results. F-Secure is not a Swiss Army Knife. It is a specifically designed tool to handle specific security issues. It needs to be supplemented with other defense layers - of which user knowledge is of supreme importance (true of all on the above list).

If you have children, then Standard User Account configured to absolute default-deny for everything and\or virtualization-based protection capable of being easily reset (e.g. Shadow Defender, Rollback Rx). Who knew that being a parent required them to be cybersecurity subject matter experts (SMEs)?
 

bazang

Level 6
Jul 3, 2024
265
Well I wanted to keep Zonealarm, but decided to go with speed. Speed that effected opening applications, surfing, and file transfer. The best speed wise for me with AMD processor are as follows in this order:

McAfee IS
K-7 Ultimate
Avast One
Eset
Bitdefender

So I went with McAfee IS
McAfee is not the "Horry Monster" that it once was. Whoever is running McAfee these days has been trying hard to move on from its past - and the reputation as being sub-par.

I would use McAfee before some on the above list.
 

Jonny Quest

Level 21
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Well-known
Mar 2, 2023
1,081
If you lean towards usability without issues then default or tweaked Windows Defender or F-Secure.

Why do I personally use F-Secure?

1. I like it. It works for me. It meets my needs. Solving issues is easy.
2. It exist without conflict besides native Windows security and Defender.
3. It provides protections that Windows Defender does not, even tweaked.
4. I am a mundane, low-risk user that impalements and practices high security via Defense-in-Depth.
5. It is low resource intensive.
6. Support is responsive.
7. I report problems and they get fixed within timeframes that are within industry standards (e.g. a few months or less).
8. It has been the least PITA internet security suite that I've ever used.
9. For geopolitical reasons, I am OK with a Finland-based vendor.

It's not perfect, but it is close enough for me. I don't allow others to influence my decision; what I choose is done solely on the consideration of all data points, and then my own self-performed security and pentest results. F-Secure is not a Swiss Army Knife. It is a specifically designed tool to handle specific security issues. It needs to be supplemented with other defense layers - of which user knowledge is of supreme importance (true of all on the above list).
Well stated. Excellent list and reasons.
 

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