Do you trust Vivaldi?

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Slyguy

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The only problem with this forum is that with all the dedication to security also comes with hefty doses of paranoia.

Sometimes a place like this can paradoxically warn you about things that aren't really dangerous.
Playing on the railroad tracks isn't really dangerous. Until it is...

We don't really know what they do with their analytics. We don't know how well it is secured. So we error on the side of caution. That's what smart people do.. So we elect to play in a playground, rather than on railroad tracks.
 
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Chimaira

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Playing on the railroad tracks isn't really dangerous. Until it is...

We don't really know what they do with their analytics. We don't know how well it is secured. So we error on the side of caution. That's what smart people do.. So we elect to play in a playground, rather than on railroad tracks.
That's exactly what someone wearing a tinfoil hat would say to justify their paranoia. ;)

In all seriousness though, sometimes you aren't really playing on railroad tracks even though you think you are.

Your line of thinking is a perfect example of having a hammer and only seeing nails. I'm not sticking up for vivaldi or anything but compared to other actors vivaldi isn't someone I think any of us here need to be freaking out about. Sometimes this security paranoia makes our lives harder than they need to be.

The only way to have anonymity would be something like TailsOS using TOR, but then you just get flagged by an intelligence agency, then you'd really have someone watching your every move.
 

Slyguy

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That's exactly what someone wearing a tinfoil hat would say to justify their paranoia. ;)

In all seriousness though, sometimes you aren't really playing on railroad tracks even though you think you are.

Your line of thinking is a perfect example of having a hammer and only seeing nails. I'm not sticking up for vivaldi or anything but compared to other actors vivaldi isn't someone I think any of us here need to be freaking out about. Sometimes this security paranoia makes our lives harder than they need to be.

The only way to have anonymity would be something like TailsOS using TOR, but then you just get flagged by an intelligence agency, then you'd really have someone watching your every move.
The whole tired Tin Foil line is old, and pathetic. It has zero meaning in the age of Assange, Snowden, Vault-7, not to mention Meltdown, major data breaches and other things. If anything, recent history has really shown that people that have been conducting their lives with a decent level of privacy/anonymity were correct all along. (anyway, it's not foil, it's Velostat that does the job)

Privacy, security and anonymity are three distinctly different things. If you want privacy, that's easy to accomplish without using toys like TOR/Tails. Simply encrypting your important items, using zero knowledge services, guarding your Opt-In/Out settings and ensuring you use a privacy based email service are largely enough for most people. I don't think anyone is under the illusion that full anonymity can be achieved without a significant time investment, that's not what we're talking about.

I can't speak for everyone here, but I think it comes down to lessening exposure to unnecessary data-mining and aggregate data collection. That's really what smart people do in the modern age, not paranoid people. Paranoid people won't even waste their breath trying to convince a guy like you of anything, they just don't care.