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W7 64 Accounts Backwards?
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<blockquote data-quote="AtlBo" data-source="post: 720954" data-attributes="member: 32547"><p>I hope not [USER=905]@Prorootect[/USER] <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite118" alt=":oops:" title="Oops! :oops:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":oops:" />. I don't have it installed so I don't think so. I looked that over in your thread where it was mentioned previously, and I hope they get something done about that.</p><p></p><p>Thanks for all the input. Here's the most important facts to clariy and because maybe someone could find it interesting. Kind of has me going wondering if it happened intentionally by MS design:</p><p></p><p>I wanted to set up an SUA on an Admin PC</p><p>I decided to use the primary (Admin) account as the user account (keep files and AppData)</p><p>I created a new Admin account with a slightly different username from the original</p><p>Changed the original to SUA</p><p>Changed the name of the new SUA account in Users Admin area to the same as the other account + LTD<span style="color: #ff0000"><strong><------ This is when I think Windows may have shifted things around based on program dependencies or associations etc.</strong></span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000"></span></p><p><span style="color: #ffffff">I am going to look around for awhile and see if I can come up with more, but I have NEVER seen Windows show a location in Explorer as one thing and then show its path differently when the path bar is clicked. I don't know how everything is continuing to function properly, although UAC seems to be mildly affected in this way. In SUA, if I attempt to open one of its actual folders like Documents or Desktop (navigate to C:\Users\User-LTD\<FOLDER>), I get the UAC prompt, while I can freely roam around in the Admin folders from SUA.</span></p><p><span style="color: #ffffff"></span></p><p><span style="color: #ffffff">I see everything the way I want to see things as far as what files I see in the folders in each account when Explorer opens Documents, etc. It's just that the path is not what's expected. This is reflected also in the C:\Users directory tree where the files are not what I would expect for each of the two accounts. That extends all the way down the AppData path too.</span></p><p><span style="color: #ffffff"></span></p><p><span style="color: #ffffff">If Windows moves things around this way when an account name is changed, I wonder what it would have done if I had not created the new Admin account before changing the old one to SUA (I know I would have been stuck w/o and Admin acct but...)? Would it have moved some things to the machine Admin account so the files could be available for programs? I just don't know and again, no idea why everything just didn't break. I guess I did reinstall a good bit of the software to get around other quirks of establishing 2 accounts, so maybe I just never noticed breakage that was there...</span></p><p><span style="color: #ffffff"></span></p><p><span style="color: #ffffff">Anyway, the short is that in the C:\Users directory, many if not all of the folders are flip flopped account-wise. Hope I can find out what happened. That Explorer.exe presents the folder as what I would like to see kind of indicates to me that it was something intentional from MS for W7 at least...maybe to accomodate installed software(?)...</span></p><p><span style="color: #ffffff"></span></p><p><span style="color: #ffffff">Libraries folders:</span></p><p><span style="color: #ffffff"></span></p><p> <span style="color: #ffffff">[ATTACH=full]183083[/ATTACH] </span></p><p><span style="color: #ffffff"></span></p><p><span style="color: #ffffff">Again when I open the -LTD account folder I see the files I would expect to see in the newly created Admin account. However, in SUA, Explorer.exe->Documents shows me the files I want to see and then indicates I am looking at the -LTD account folder...until I click on the path. Then via the path I see that those are actually stored in the Admin account. Same thing happens in the Admin account in Explorer except in reverse. </span></p><p><span style="color: #ffffff"></span></p><p><span style="color: #ffffff">It's like having normal expected access from Explorer, including UAC as far as I can tell, but then the folders are flip flopped in directory-wise. And Windows even accomodates, indicating that I am in the expected/desired folder.</span></p><p><span style="color: #ffffff"></span></p><p><span style="color: #ffffff">When I changed from Admin SUA and then changed the name, I would have expected the files would still be in the account, but this is not the case...all the way down to AppData LOL. Yet Windows functions perfectly as I would like, including UAC. I don't know what Windows must have done underneath for this to work. It took me 2 months of steady use to even notice this I guess. Crazy...<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite125" alt=":LOL:" title="Laugh :LOL:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":LOL:" /></span></p><p><span style="color: #ffffff"></span></p><p><span style="color: #ffffff"></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AtlBo, post: 720954, member: 32547"] I hope not [USER=905]@Prorootect[/USER] :oops:. I don't have it installed so I don't think so. I looked that over in your thread where it was mentioned previously, and I hope they get something done about that. Thanks for all the input. Here's the most important facts to clariy and because maybe someone could find it interesting. Kind of has me going wondering if it happened intentionally by MS design: I wanted to set up an SUA on an Admin PC I decided to use the primary (Admin) account as the user account (keep files and AppData) I created a new Admin account with a slightly different username from the original Changed the original to SUA Changed the name of the new SUA account in Users Admin area to the same as the other account + LTD[COLOR=#ff0000][B]<------ This is when I think Windows may have shifted things around based on program dependencies or associations etc.[/B] [/COLOR] [COLOR=#ffffff]I am going to look around for awhile and see if I can come up with more, but I have NEVER seen Windows show a location in Explorer as one thing and then show its path differently when the path bar is clicked. I don't know how everything is continuing to function properly, although UAC seems to be mildly affected in this way. In SUA, if I attempt to open one of its actual folders like Documents or Desktop (navigate to C:\Users\User-LTD\<FOLDER>), I get the UAC prompt, while I can freely roam around in the Admin folders from SUA. I see everything the way I want to see things as far as what files I see in the folders in each account when Explorer opens Documents, etc. It's just that the path is not what's expected. This is reflected also in the C:\Users directory tree where the files are not what I would expect for each of the two accounts. That extends all the way down the AppData path too. If Windows moves things around this way when an account name is changed, I wonder what it would have done if I had not created the new Admin account before changing the old one to SUA (I know I would have been stuck w/o and Admin acct but...)? Would it have moved some things to the machine Admin account so the files could be available for programs? I just don't know and again, no idea why everything just didn't break. I guess I did reinstall a good bit of the software to get around other quirks of establishing 2 accounts, so maybe I just never noticed breakage that was there... Anyway, the short is that in the C:\Users directory, many if not all of the folders are flip flopped account-wise. Hope I can find out what happened. That Explorer.exe presents the folder as what I would like to see kind of indicates to me that it was something intentional from MS for W7 at least...maybe to accomodate installed software(?)... Libraries folders: [ATTACH=full]183083[/ATTACH] Again when I open the -LTD account folder I see the files I would expect to see in the newly created Admin account. However, in SUA, Explorer.exe->Documents shows me the files I want to see and then indicates I am looking at the -LTD account folder...until I click on the path. Then via the path I see that those are actually stored in the Admin account. Same thing happens in the Admin account in Explorer except in reverse. It's like having normal expected access from Explorer, including UAC as far as I can tell, but then the folders are flip flopped in directory-wise. And Windows even accomodates, indicating that I am in the expected/desired folder. When I changed from Admin SUA and then changed the name, I would have expected the files would still be in the account, but this is not the case...all the way down to AppData LOL. Yet Windows functions perfectly as I would like, including UAC. I don't know what Windows must have done underneath for this to work. It took me 2 months of steady use to even notice this I guess. Crazy...:LOL: [/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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