Company

  • Avast

    Votes: 1 2.6%
  • Bitdefender

    Votes: 1 2.6%
  • Cylance

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Eset

    Votes: 6 15.4%
  • Emsisoft

    Votes: 2 5.1%
  • GData

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Kaspersky

    Votes: 11 28.2%
  • Microsoft

    Votes: 13 33.3%
  • Norton

    Votes: 1 2.6%
  • Other (Post)

    Votes: 4 10.3%
  • Total voters
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Eddie Morra

Even though Microsoft makes use of the Insider Program, they still have a QA Department, and there are builds being tested internally that Insiders never get to see.
Haha. You're correct, Microsoft do still test. However, they dropped tons of testing resources years ago.

The home users are the testers now and they will feel the wrath of Microsoft as borked updates are released. All because Microsoft dropped testing resources. They chopped it off like rope and are left with not even half of the rope.

If Microsoft eliminated QA completely then there would never be a single successful update. They have to check that things work for them. Then it gets thrown out there in cycles (like a cancerous supply drop).

If the AV with millions of customers or other software that you use is incompatible with that new update and the software vendor doesn't magically fix it after testing with a Windows Insider build? Have some toast once your Windows machine gets the update officially.
 
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Eddie Morra

If the AV with millions of customers or other software that you use is incompatible with that new update and the software vendor doesn't magically fix it after testing with a Windows Insider build? Have some toast once your Windows machine gets the update officially.
Microsoft doesn't hit the millionaire vendor up on Skype like "yo whatup m8 u got a mayday mayday with a new update we gonna throw out tonite bruv. quick work around the clock with the office bro's"

That would require Skype to actually work. Meanwhile, a quarter of customers ditched it after the Skype UWP was pushed onto Windows 10 users but... didn't want to open, sign into the user account or send messages. Did I mention the other bugs where notifications stop working, calls refuse to accept and messages start queuing up and randomly send in bulk after several minutes?

Talk about bad QA.
 
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Haha. You're correct, Microsoft do still test. However, they dropped tons of testing resources years ago.

The home users are the testers now and they will feel the wrath of Microsoft as borked updates are released. All because Microsoft dropped testing resources. They chopped it off like rope and are left with not even half of the rope.

If Microsoft eliminated QA completely then there would never be a single successful update. They have to check that things work for them. Then it gets thrown out there in cycles (like a cancerous supply drop).

If the AV with millions of customers or other software that you use is incompatible with that new update and the software vendor doesn't magically fix it after testing with a Windows Insider build? Have some toast once your Windows machine gets the update officially.
In my book, Microsoft has no responsibility towards third-party Software. Developers have more than enough time (6 months) to test and read documentation on new and deprecated features.

You'll notice Kaspersky has been ahead and taking advantage of what I said above, all their products have full compatibility by launch day of a new upgrade.

Microsoft should worry about their products, and not lazy third-parties like Avast.

If developers stopped progressing because of third-parties, the industry wouldn't move forward.
 
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