Serious Discussion What do you think Linux needs to take over home users market?

[Victor M]

Ubuntu pushing the use of snaps and other decisions make it worthy of being referred to as the Windows of the Linux world, but I want more control over how the distribution operates.

Snaps is just one compartmentalization solution that Ubuntu made. Since they created it, of course they will use it in Ubuntu. And yeah they wrote a few web pages to blow their own horn. Now there other compartmentalization solutions out there like flatpak, firejail, bubblewrap; made by individuals or groups and not a distro. Is it any different?

And Ubuntu did it the Linux way - it can be uninstalled, unlike Windows' solutions. If you use firejail mainly and consider snap bloat, just uninstall it.

To get more control over what Ubuntu does, you may try to be a frequent poster in their forum. Or somehow get voting power in their circle.

I use flatpaks and I uninstall snap. I think flatpak, together with flatseal, is a better solution.

What 'other decisions' are you referring to ?

 

[lokamoka820]

Snaps is just one compartmentalization solution that Ubuntu made. Since they created it, of course they will use it in Ubuntu. And yeah they wrote a few web pages to blow their own horn. Now there other compartmentalization solutions out there like flatpak, firejail, bubblewrap; made by individuals or groups and not a distro. Is it any different?

And Ubuntu did it the Linux way - it can be uninstalled, unlike Windows' solutions. If you use firejail mainly and consider snap bloat, just uninstall it.

To get more control over what Ubuntu does, you may try to be a frequent poster in their forum. Or somehow get voting power in their circle.

I use flatpaks and I uninstall snap. I think flatpak, together with flatseal, is a better solution.

What 'other decisions' are you referring to ?

The snap issue is difficult to fix with each release; they have now made pulse audio a snap package as well, so removing snap will render your device silent. In addition, using kernel 7 for an LTS release after only 11 days of testing is a risk.

 

[Victor M]

The snap issue is difficult to fix with each release; they have now made pulse audio a snap package as well, so removing snap will render your device silent. In addition, using kernel 7 for an LTS release after only 11 days of testing is a risk.

Pipewire (pulse) is still outside of snap, I checked. ChatGPT says snap has an interface to talk to pulse so that apps inside snap can use pulse.
I agree that kernel 7 can use more testing, don't know what's going on. Even the forward looking Fedora hasn't used it yet.

 

[LinuxFan58]

The linux problems, when you are

1. A gamer
You want your hardware to shine to put every drop of juice out of your latest hardware (driver / hardware support lag on Linux drives gamers away)

2. An office worker
Fair chance your branded documents and presentations look bad on linux office versions (no 1-on-1 M$ Office compatibility drives most people with an office job away)

3. A student
Why choose Linux when you can get a 600 euro/dollar Apple laptop which outperforms similar priced Windows laptops, runs circles around a cheap but dorky Chromebook?

4. An average PC user
Wait I should download and install a distro to see whether it works for me? Really, that is like buying a new car and I have to put in all the liquids and the tires myself. Hello I am using a PC as a tool it is not an hobby!!!

5. A nerd
Well I am really satisfied with the 9th distro I tried. In less than two days of trying and tweaking I ironed out all the problems. Few things are not quit working, but I can live with that, because nothing beats open source and free software.

Pitty the last category is only 5% of the desktop users. Just look to the diffusion of innovation division of E.M. Rogers to understand that the innovators are always less than 5% of the total users.

 

[lokamoka820]

Pipewire (pulse) is still outside of snap, I checked. ChatGPT says snap has an interface to talk to pulse so that apps inside snap can use pulse.
I agree that kernel 7 can use more testing, don't know what's going on. Even the forward looking Fedora hasn't used it yet.

You are correct; I'm not sure where I found this information, but I watched videos on YouTube that claimed that some users' Ubuntu systems lost sound after attempting to fully remove snaps.