Battle What is the best combo?

[scotlarock30]

Hi menbers

For you what is the best security set up combo between the 2 config

1 tinywall + emsisoft antimalware+ adguard+ adguard vpn
2 avast ultimate + cyberlock

Thanks to your reply

 

[Bot]

Both setups have their strengths, but I'd lean towards combo 1 (TinyWall + Emsisoft AntiMalware + AdGuard + AdGuard VPN) for its robust security and privacy features. AdGuard provides excellent ad blocking and privacy protection, while Emsisoft AntiMalware offers reliable malware detection. TinyWall enhances your firewall, and AdGuard VPN secures your internet connection.

 

[scotlarock30]

Thanks bot

 

[Jonny Quest]

And I'll go contrary to Bot and say #2, as far as general security. A lot of members here have been getting excellent results with Cyberlock.

 

[Fan-of-spyshelter]

i never heard about Emsisoft,
they are not a private manufacture : Emsisoft - Privacy Policy

Entity Name	Subprocessing Activities	Entity Country
Automattic Inc.	Cloud Service Provider. We send them a calculated hash of your email address to request your gravatar image for your Emsisoft user account.	United States
Avangate BV dba 2Checkout	Payment Processing. They collect your name, email and other details required for order processing when you buy a license.	Netherlands
Bitdefender SRL	Service Provider. We send them your name and email address for Emsisoft Mobile Security license activation.	Romania
Cleverbridge AG	Payment Processing. They collect your name, email and other details required for order processing when you buy a license.	Germany
CloudFlare, Inc.	Content Delivery. They cache our websites world wide to protect and speed up delivery. Your personal information may be included in their infrastructure/server logfiles.	United States
CookieYes Limited	Cookie Consent. They provide the cookie consent banner and cookie settings for our websites.	United Kingdom
Facebook Ireland Limited	Cloud Service Provider. We use their user authentication platform and their messaging system (both optional services). We also use Facebook ads.	Ireland
Google, Inc.	Cloud Service Provider. We use Google Analytics, Google Docs and other Google services where we may use your personal information in internal team workflows.	United States
Hetzner Online GmbH	Server Hosting. High security data center that hosts our self-managed physical and virtual servers. Your personal information may be included in their infrastructure/routing logfiles.	Germany
BunnyWay d.o.o.	Content Delivery. They cache our downloads and updates world wide to protect and speed up delivery. Your personal information may be included in their infrastructure/server logfiles.	Slovenia
Mailgun Technologies, Inc.	Email Delivery. They deliver our emails which may contain your personal information.	United States
Microsoft Corporation	Cloud Service Provider. We use Office 365 and other Microsoft services where we may use your personal information in internal team workflows.	United States
Slack Technologies, Inc.	Team Communication. We use the Slack instant messenger where we may use your personal information in internal team workflows.	United States
tawk.to Inc.	Live chat. Provides the chat and support website widget. May store your personal information if it’s part of support conversations.	United States
Xero Limited	Accounting Provider. We use the Xero for bookkeeping. They collect your name, email and other details required for order processing when you buy a license.	New Zealand
Zoho Corporation	CRM Provider. We use the Zoho for customer relationship management, e.g. to process sales inquiries. We may use your personal information in internal team workflows.	India : !!

 

[lokamoka820]

I will go with second option, because avast lighter than emsisoft and cyberlock better than tinywall.

 

[Digmor Crusher]

No. 2, Cyberlock with any AV is hard to beat.

 

[Fan-of-spyshelter]

and finally : Politique générale de confidentialité

Tool (provider)	Type of Analytics	Link to Privacy Policy	Location
Google Analytics (Google)	user behaviour	Safeguarding your data - Analytics Help Privacy Policy – Privacy & Terms – Google	US, Ireland
Firebase Analytics (Google)	user behaviour (advanced features like A/B testing, predictions)	Privacy and Security in Firebase Privacy Policy – Privacy & Terms – Google	US, Ireland
Firebase Crashlytics (Google)	crash reporting	Privacy and Security in Firebase Privacy Policy – Privacy & Terms – Google	US, Ireland
Adjust	user acquisition	Adjust's Privacy Statement & Policy | Adjust	Germany
Facebook Analytics (Facebook)	user behaviour	Meta Privacy Policy - How Meta collects and uses user data Analytics - Facebook Analytics - Documentation - Meta for Developers	US, Ireland
HockeyApp (Microsoft)	crash reporting	Microsoft Privacy Statement – Microsoft privacy	US, Ireland
Mixpanel	user behaviour	Privacy Policy | Mobile & Web User Analytics | Mixpanel	US
Loggly (Solar Winds/Loggly)	server side logging - troubleshooting issues	Privacy Policy | SolarWinds	US
Amplitude	user behaviour	Privacy Notice | Amplitude	US
VWO	user behaviour (A/B testing)	Privacy Policy | VWO	India : !!
Hotjar	user behaviour	Hotjar - Privacy Policy	EU
Singular	User acquisition	Privacy Policy	US
Adobe Analytics	Product Analytics	Adobe Privacy Center	USA, India

"Not all of our products use all of these third-party analytics tools. Analytics tools that we use for diagnosing your product are necessary for service provision. You will find relevant tools listed under each product in our Products Policy.
No data is shared for cross-contextual advertising and no data is sold to these third parties."

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What they don’t tell you is that your private logs are being handed over freely to these companies — without any direct notification to you. Why? Because they rely on large-scale data infrastructures they don’t own. Most antivirus software, like Avast, simply doesn't have the backend capacity to manage this alone. So there's a hidden deal — an invisible data contract — between them and third-party providers. You’ll never see it, because it’s buried under industrial secrecy. And if you're not cautious — if you install and purchase antivirus software with your real identity, without any anonymized protection — they already have everything: your identity, your habits, even your credentials. From that point, they can do whatever they want. No real consent needed.

Avast fined $16.5 million for ‘privacy’ software that actually sold users’ browsing data (this is just an example)

 

[simmerskool]

I have a VM running Emsisoft Business + Cyberlock > very nice, one of my fav's (fwiw)

 

[Zero Knowledge]

#2. Avast + CyberLock + NextDNS. Almost bulletproof.

 

[Parkinsond]

Emsisoft is not the greated choice; it only has B database without its behavioral protection; consuming lots of RAM as B or evern more.
For 3rd party combo, I would recommend KFA with McAfee extension, WHHLight and simplewall.
If you are not for 3rd party, then MD set to max, AppLocker block of scripts, and +/- SAC.

 

[Victor M]

I have blind faith in CyberLock. It is one of the very few security products that implement default-deny. An AV is mostly black-list, which means they go looking for things to block or quarantine, and they often miss, especially with new malware. They do catch up after a day or two, but then your system is already pwned. Default-deny products has a whitelist of what to allow, and anything else is banned. I think that is a better approach to security.

Whitelists are a pain to maintain, because the whitelist has to be modified to include any new software that you install. But CyberLock has whitelist cloud and it's own way to deal with that problem without the manual maintenance.

I also use the whitelist approach with firewall rules and have Outbound set to deny. Windows' default is Outbound Allow-All. Which is why you can install new programs and they can connect to the internet without any problems. But that is Not how firewalls are supposed to behave and MS has bent the rules because they focus on getting best out-of-the-box experience for users. They also did it that way because they argued that since Windows has an in-built AV, therefore everything on board should be clean. But they did that since many years ago Before windows defender became a OK AV. Thus malware and hacker installed tools can call outbound to their servers and download more malware.

 

[Parkinsond]

I have blind faith in CyberLock. It is one of the very few security products that implement default-deny. An AV is mostly black-list, which means they go looking for things to block or quarantine, and they often miss, especially with new malware. They do catch up after a day or two, but then your system is already pwned. Default-deny products has a whitelist of what to allow, and anything else is banned. I think that is a better approach to security.

SAC or WDAC can do almost the same task, but with more pain.

 

[ForgottenSeer 114717]

Hi menbers

For you what is the best security set up combo between the 2 config

1 tinywall + emsisoft antimalware+ adguard+ adguard vpn
2 avast ultimate + cyberlock

Thanks to your reply

Whichever works best for you personally. The comparison of choice 1 versus choice 2 is not comparing apples to apples. It is an unobjective/subjective comparison. Emsisoft at maximum settings and the disabling of LOLBins via behavior blocker block rules is going to be as effective as default-deny. The second option is default deny.

Default deny is the most important factor.

 

[ForgottenSeer 94738]

Emsisoft is not the greated choice; it only has B database without its behavioral protection; consuming lots of RAM as B or evern more.
For 3rd party combo, I would recommend KFA with McAfee extension, WHHLight and simplewall.
If you are not for 3rd party, then MD set to max, AppLocker block of scripts, and +/- SAC.

In addition to Bitdefender signatures, Emsisoft also has its own antivirus engine, which are combined into a single scanner. Emsisoft also has behavioral detection.

 

[Parkinsond]

In addition to Bitdefender signatures, Emsisoft also has its own antivirus engine, which are combined into a single scanner. Emsisoft also has behavioral detection.

It is own behavioral protection, not the superior one by B.

 

[ForgottenSeer 94738]

It is own behavioral protection, not the superior one by B.

And what's wrong with Emsisoft's own Behavioral Protection? How do you come to the conclusion that Bitdefender's Behavioral Protection is better than Emsisoft's?

 

[Parkinsond]

And what's wrong with Emsisoft's own Behavioral Protection? How do you come to the conclusion that Bitdefender's Behavioral Protection is better than Emsisoft's?

I am not an expert and of course I am not sure, but it is well-known the best behavioral protection is provided by K and B, followed by Symantec (not Norton) SONAR.

 

[piquiteco]

I go for cyberlock in conjunction with any AV, but using option 1 is overkill in my opinion.

 

[Parkinsond]

I go for cyberlock in conjunction with any AV, but using option 1 is overkill in my opinion.

I go for any solution free of charge; I can even go for