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[DDE_Server]

Linux is not Ubuntu. There is Arch, there is Fedora and there is OpenSuse.

i mean most of other linux distro depend on Ubunto on debian for sure there other not but most of them

 

[lokamoka820]

So basically on your system your running
1- native packages
2- snap
3- flat pak
4- app image

For me this is a no go. I'd go flatpak only or native only. That's my philosophy.

Maybe I didn't explain myself well in my previous sentence, but my preference is for native packages + Bitwarden AppImage.

That it is . it is experimental and if there any other distro which satisfy any requirement i need i may shift why not lol

I prefer switching toward root rather than child distributions, as this will cause fewer issues in the long term. So, for someone comfortable with Ubuntu, there is no benefit to switching to Linux Mint or Zorin OS. If a user looking for a more challenging experience, he should go for Debian.

 

[lokamoka820]

When I read the discussions about the various Linux versions, Snap, Flatpak, and so on, it puts me off switching from Windows to Linux. I imagine most Windows users feel the same way. In my opinion, this means Linux will never replace Windows as the operating system for the mass market.

These are advanced topics best suited for users already comfortable with Linux seeking alternatives to built-in features. However, for anyone looking to switch to Linux, there is no issue at all with what is considered a beginner-friendly distributions.

 

[Divine_Barakah]

Maybe I didn't explain myself well in my previous sentence, but my preference is for native packages + Bitwarden AppImage.

I prefer switching toward root rather than child distributions, as this will cause fewer issues in the long term. So, for someone comfortable with Ubuntu, there is no benefit to switching to Linux Mint or Zorin OS. If a user looking for a more challenging experience, he should go for Debian.

I tried Geko Linux, based on OpenSuse and it worked flawlessly for me. I also tried KaOS which is an independent distro as well as Solus. Those options work well.

 

[Miraculix]

Btw it is no different in Windows. No many software has shifted development to Electron which is, to my understanding, packing the Chromium engine in the app. It consums an insane amount of ram. Now if you're using Bitwarden for Windows and a couple of other Electron-based app watch ram consumption.

I don't have any problems with Windows. But you probably have different requirements for an operating system than I do.

 

[Victor M]

When I read the discussions about the various Linux versions, Snap, Flatpak, and so on, it puts me off switching from Windows to Linux. I imagine most Windows users feel the same way. In my opinion, this means Linux will never replace Windows as the operating system for the mass market.

why, competition is a healthy phenomenon. The underlying Linux kernel ( core ) is the same for all distro's. What is different is the Display Managers, packagers & their repositories, service 'engine', and default apps to fulfill the roles of notepad, browser, file manager, music player and other essentials.

Snap and Flatpak are just containers, similar to Docker on Windows. It just allows developers to package all the components together for trouble free distribution.

It is not as confusing as you think.

 

[Miraculix]

why, competition is a healthy phenomenon. The underlying Linux kernel ( core ) is the same for all distro's. What is different is the Display Managers, packagers & their repositories, service 'engine', and default apps to fulfill the roles of notepad, browser, file manager, music player and other essentials.

Snap and Flatpak are just containers, similar to Docker on Windows. It just allows developers to package all the components together for easier distribution.

It is not as confusing as you think.

I switched from DR-DOS to Windows 3.0 back in 1990, and now I’m using Windows 11. Throughout that entire time, I’ve never needed anything like "Docker." With Windows, I essentially just have to choose between Windows 11 and Windows 11 Pro. Then I install the programs I need and let Microsoft and HP handle the updates that are offered. I don’t have to navigate a confusing array of versions and update options like I would with Linux. Everything on Windows just runs automatically. That’s how an operating system designed for the mass market should be. Linux isn't like that. Of course, from your perspective as a Linux expert, things look completely different. But the vast majority of users don’t want to train to become specialists just to use an operating system. Then again, die-hard Linux users will naturally never accept that.

 

[Parkinsond]

I switched from DR-DOS to Windows 3.0 back in 1990, and now I’m using Windows 11. Throughout that entire time, I’ve never needed anything like "Docker." With Windows, I essentially just have to choose between Windows 11 and Windows 11 Pro. Then I install the programs I need and let Microsoft and HP handle the updates that are offered. I don’t have to navigate a confusing array of versions and update options like I would with Linux. Everything on Windows just runs automatically. That’s how an operating system designed for the mass market should be. Linux isn't like that. Of course, from your perspective as a Linux expert, things look completely different. But the vast majority of users don’t want to train to become specialists just to use an operating system. Then again, die-hard Linux users will naturally never accept that.

The administrative staff at work barely can use Windows; learning them to use Linux distros is a very remote target.

 

[lokamoka820]

The administrative staff at work barely can use Windows; learning them to use Linux distros is a very remote target.

The like button is missing from your post; perhaps the administrative staff does not agree with your content.

 

[Parkinsond]

The like button is missing from your post; perhaps the administrative staff does not agree with your content.

They have no idea what is inside the OS; they just know how to turn on PC, open browser, and open Office.

 

[Miraculix]

The like button is missing from your post; perhaps the administrative staff does not agree with your content.

I was still able to applaud a moment ago! You weren't fast enough.

 

[lokamoka820]

They have no idea what is inside the OS; they just know how to turn on PC, open browser, and open Office.

This is because they are constantly occupied with solitaire.

 

[Victor M]

With Windows, I essentially just have to choose between Windows 11 and Windows 11 Pro

That is true. You don't have to choose. For Linux, all you have to do is read recommendations sites for beginners. And they invariably point you to distro's like Ubuntu, or Mint. Go and read a few of those sites and see which distro's are commonly recommended. When in doubt, look for 'beginners guides' .

let Microsoft and HP handle the updates that are offered. I don’t have to navigate a confusing array of versions and update options like I would with Linux.

Once you have chosen your distro, you will have also chosen your package (update) manager. Both Mint and Ubuntu use the 'apt' package manager, if you wish to use the command line. There is a gui update tool for both of those distro's.

I jumped to OpenBSD from Windows XP. I was being hacked, and OpenBSD proclaimed it is 'secure by default'. So I jumped ship and learned security from a Unix perspective. A little later, VISTA came along promising better security and so I went back to Windows. Then when I learned there was Ubuntu, I leaped onto Linux, and then tried a few Linux distro's. So I have both a Windows machine and a Linux machine.

 

[Parkinsond]

This is because they are constantly occupied with solitaire.

Such an advanced stage; not yet, just playing Quran while not finishing Word tasks.
They considered me a computer geek just for being able to install Windows

 

[Divine_Barakah]

I switched from DR-DOS to Windows 3.0 back in 1990, and now I’m using Windows 11. Throughout that entire time, I’ve never needed anything like "Docker." With Windows, I essentially just have to choose between Windows 11 and Windows 11 Pro. Then I install the programs I need and let Microsoft and HP handle the updates that are offered. I don’t have to navigate a confusing array of versions and update options like I would with Linux. Everything on Windows just runs automatically. That’s how an operating system designed for the mass market should be. Linux isn't like that. Of course, from your perspective as a Linux expert, things look completely different. But the vast majority of users don’t want to train to become specialists just to use an operating system. Then again, die-hard Linux users will naturally never accept that.

You have a valid point here and I could not agree more.

But some Linux Distros try to mimic Windows and Mac OS. Take a look at Elementary.io

It strips most of the "confusing" Parts of Linux off and mimic Mac OS.

 

[lokamoka820]

look at Q4OS for example.