Off-Topic 2029: the year when robots will have the power to outsmart their makers

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  1. XhenEd

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    Not really on-topic, Garry Kasparov (in the picture of the first post), one of the greatest Chess Grandmasters of all time, has been working with Avast as its ambassador. :cool:
     
  2. tim one

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    He is a great example of human intelligence, I don't remember well but I believe he has won some chess game against Deep Blue, amazing :)
     
  3. bribon77

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    in chess, machines are difficult. to beat them. A teacher said that in order to win a machine, pieces had to be given. and then the machine went down in level. and so it was possible to beat him
     
  4. Opcode

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    I'm not a robot. :)

    I can beat any machine for chess. All I have to do is simply unplug the machine, now I win. Hahaha. Winner! :D
     
  5. tim one

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    +1 (y) :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
     
  6. mlnevese

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    Exactly. Just let the AI run with hardware restrictions..
     
  7. TheJokerz

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    They need to make a fail safe with these machines! Like a logic meltdown, something as simple as: what has a tongue but no mouth? Which in turn would cause the robot to malfunction and shut down...
     
  8. Opcode

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    You could always just make a normal kill-switch through a button on the machine which will power down. Or a special device which sends a signals to it -> activates the shutdown.

    thing is if they are connected to a network then they can be hacked remotely too. so then an attacker could hijack it to do something bad for them :/ (or do it manually if no network to intercept!)
     
  9. Weebarra

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    Are you really, really sure ;)
     
  10. Umbra

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    answer? you ! the robot grab you and rip away your tongue, failsafe down, you dead, Terminator win ! :p
     
  11. ElectricSheep

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    Short article on Asimov's 3 Laws of Robotics

    How do you stop a robot from hurting people? Many existing robots, such as those assembling cars in factories, shut down immediately when a human comes near. But this quick fix wouldn’t work for something like a self-driving car that might have to move to avoid a collision, or a care robot that might need to catch an old person if they fall. With robots set to become our servants, companions and co-workers, we need to deal with the increasingly complex situations this will create and the ethical and safety questions this will raise.

    Asimov's Laws Won't Stop Robots from Harming Humans, So We've Developed a Better Solution
     
  12. mlnevese

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    #32 mlnevese, Nov 17, 2017
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    The three laws are not perfect... even Asimov said so in his stories. For instance how do you make a surgeon robot that follows the three laws? He can't harm a human being so he can't perform surgery. If he tries to perform surgery he needs to harm a human being, if he doesn't he's harming a human being by not acting... a robot surgeon that follows the three laws would probably melt its positronic brain within minutes of first being activated :)
     
  13. gorblimey

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    Is it just my warped mind, or do I see a common thread here?

    It seems to me that we're simply describing an existing AI... Humanity. Don't worry about the Rise of the Machines, We're already here :alien:
     
  14. SHvFl

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    Good luck predicting a new technology's development 12 years in the future. Sure buddy i am sure you will get it.
     
  15. Arequire

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    Google branded robots with TV screens for faces following us around 24/7 serving targeted ads. I can see it now. :LOL:
    I guess it'd be more like Yandex branded robots in your case.
     
  16. gorblimey

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    But OTOH, has anybody read The Humanoids (1948) and The Humanoid Touch (1980) by Jack Williamson? Basically, we could wind up with an AI which sees us as seriously stupidly under-educated and in need of remedial care rather than extermination... o_O
     
  17. klaken

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    Hahaha 100 years ago flying cars with cardboard wings are expected.

    I also do not understand the desire to make computers think like us.

    1- why the computers would come to reason or be aware of if ...
    2- Evolution as well as artificial intelligence are based on positive stimuli .. And for this to work to fail (something unacceptable for a machine)
    3- The evolution is based on aleoteridad therefore has a sea of possibilities. The aleoteridad is not something useful for a machine.

    Maybe in 1000 computers invade us not in 10 years.
     
  18. TheJokerz

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    :LOL:(y)
     
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  19. BryanB

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    Here's another one, just so exceptional and brilliant, literally, gives a wondering person hope, thank you tim one.
     
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