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I´m Waiting for a complete synchronization between devices
Oh yes, the ongoing sync saga!
I´m Waiting for a complete synchronization between devices
These aren't valid reasons not to use Firefox. Horrible security according to who? To what study? Chrome browsing security can be outperformed by BitDefender TrafficLight (which is available for FF too), the fact their bounty program is not as big is maybe because they're not supported by one of the biggest tech companies in the world? (if not the biggest). The fact that known researchers work for Google doesn't mean Firefox is "horrible" at security.You can use Yandex browser if you want this feature.
You should never ever use Firefox. horrible security+ not good bug bounty like chromium+ reputable security researchers work on chrome /chromium(like 360 team) but none of them works around FF so it's possible that ff has bugs that not discovered yet. Chrome sandbox is 10x more advanced than the FF sandbox. ff is not an option for anyone who wants security.
The issue with Slimjet is its Chromium version is a whole 5 months out-of-date, which means it's missing 172 security fixes that have been built up over those past 5 months.Slimjet
oh wow thats a big number right thereThe issue with Slimjet is its Chromium version is a whole 5 months out-of-date, which means it's missing 172 security fixes that have been built up over those past 5 months.
Black Hat contests? not ringing a bell? FF (pre-quantum) always used to get pawned in less than 5mn, Chrome was even not listed since it would takes too long...These aren't valid reasons not to use Firefox. Horrible security according to who?
ummmm... FF uses Chrome Safebrowsing, that sum it all.To what study? Chrome browsing security can be outperformed by BitDefender TrafficLight (which is available for FF too),
that is the whole point why Chrome is way ahead of FF in term of security. Note that "way ahead" doesn't mean the one behind is bad, just less good...the fact their bounty program is not as big is maybe because they're not supported by one of the biggest tech companies in the world?
indeed, but if i have Tony Stark to make my armored suit, my suit would be more advanced than one made by Bruce Banner.The fact that known researchers work for Google doesn't mean Firefox is "horrible" at security.
There's no point claiming a browser has horrible security if you mention tests done with the previous versions of it...Black Hat contests? not ringing a bell? FF (pre-quantum) always used to get pawned in less than 5mn, Chrome was even not listed since it would takes too long...
I didn't follow the latest ones, hopefully for the FF users, its sandbox should make it harder.
Unfortunately, Exploit Protection breaks Chrome and Chromium-based browsers every few updates.Google dev's and tester have rewritten the book on reuse (be humble use what is already available) and (automated) testing. Google has the lowest bugs per 1000 lines of code (at least of the companies which have a QA process and share their testing data results), they are leading in (automated) regression testing and re-use of code and corresponding unit testing for system, acceptance and production tests.
Combined with the good bug bounty program it is hard to find a company building software with less bugs and higher code quality than Google. Although not a 1-on-1 iron casted relation, better code reuse and better regression testing should result in safer software (less unknown bugs which could be exploited). As far as I know, Edge-chromium is the only contender here, because of the tricks Microsoft applies (pre-loading Edge) and integration with Windows Defender exploit protection (by enabling Code Integrity Guard for Edge) and option in Windows 10 Pro and higher to run Edge sandboxed (virtualized) with Windows Device Application Guard.
Also that Firefox users are less common and nerdier than Chrome probably balances things.indeed, but if i have Tony Stark to make my armored suit, my suit would be more advanced than one made by Bruce Banner.
btw, FF was pawned at a recent hacking event. Firefox and Edge Fall to Hackers on Day Two of Pwn2OwnThere's no point claiming a browser has horrible security if you mention tests done with the previous versions of it...
We are talking about the browser out-of-the-box. not improved by extensions or tools.Of course Google Chrome uses Google SafeBrowsing, and it's great, no point in denying such. But if I want scam, malware and phishing detection I can always install TrafficLight which has shown better results in the tests done here along time[...]
nothing that can't be solved with external manipulation.
Well, this being the case we could all use Linux or MacOS that were proven to be "safer" that Windows "out of the box", still here we are. Of course Chrome will always be more secure (unless Mozilla is suddenly acquired by Microsoft which will probably never happen); but Firefox is meant usually for another kind of public. Usually doesn't come as an addition in an installer, is not usually top #1 in public sites reviews and isn't advertised in #1 search engine. So, most likely Firefox users, aforementioned by @Handsome Recluse are a bit nerdier or IT-related, meaning the security bonus Chrome has to offer will not be such a difference, probably because Firefox will be tuned up according to security and privacy needs.We are talking about the browser out-of-the-box. not improved by extensions or tools.
because since decades people started computing with Windows on their machines, i have both Windows and Linux on different machines, if it wasn't for MS Office or some computer manufacturers making drivers only for Windows, i will be fully on Linux or Chrome OS which is the most secure for casual uses (means no gaming, no editing, etc...). Look at MacOS or Linux users, ask them to go back Windows, they won't or they will reluctantly because they are used to the security and stability those OSes offers.Well, this being the case we could all use Linux or MacOS that were proven to be "safer" that Windows "out of the box", still here we are.
Not true, FF was and still is for everyone, now if they don't advertise themselves it is their choice.Of course Chrome will always be more secure (unless Mozilla is suddenly acquired by Microsoft which will probably never happen); but Firefox is meant usually for another kind of public
Usually doesn't come as an addition in an installer, is not usually top #1 in public sites reviews and isn't advertised in #1 search engine. So, most likely Firefox users, aforementioned by @Handsome Recluse are a bit nerdier or IT-related
Your argument comparing a tweaked FF with a out-of-the-box Chrome is wrong; you don't compare a tuned car with a factory one.meaning the security bonus Chrome has to offer will not be such a difference, probably because Firefox will be tuned up according to security and privacy needs..
Indeed, most hackers/pentesters will always put more efforts to break Chrome and report their findings to Google because they will get paid handsomely instead risking being sued if they sell the exploit in the darknet.But, as you mention, Chrome will always be on top of Firefox when it comes to funding different teams.
Except the privacy part (which is overrated to me, even FF tried to collect and share datas but went under a deluge of criticism) , i don't see what FF afford more than Chrome, in the past it was heavy customizations but now FF is more like Chrome than anything else.If my main concern was purely security, I would for sure go for Chrome. Since I find my ways to complement the lack of top-class security in Firefox, I don't really need Google's browser. Still, I recommend it to beginners that will for sure not tweak Firefox, and to those which primary concern is security.
We have to keep in mind that not all products and pcs are the same. In other words, we cant expect every product to have the same effects to all the pcs.Opera #1 now for me.
I like Opera and Firefox best, I only use Chrome for games, its sluggish on youtube and web browsing, BUT I checked my memory usage, seems like Chrome has gotten way ligher on RAM since 4-6 yrs ago when I used to check up/compare browsers.
Firefox seems to have doubled in RAM usage, is that why its smooth and fast its taking the RAM?
honestly, i dont even bother with it. The maximum time i spent on it was 15mn (years ago), since i sync my few extensions...everytime i clean install my system, Chrome sync them, i dont need to go to the Chrome store.@Umbra You forgot to discuss the Chrome Web Store wild west shenanigans.
I'm actually giving it a chance (on Win10) because i use it on Linux since ages and even Chromium on Linux was performing a bit better...I gave a chance to FF, so i used it for over a month.