Question Asus router AiProtection and firewall- are they any good?

[jetman]

I‘ve just bought a new Asus router. It has something which Asus call “AiProtection” and is apparently powered by Trend Micro. Among the list of features is an Intrusion Prevention System plus cloud based scanning of URL’s etc. According to Asus this will help to make my home network more secure. However, I am always cynical of marketing hype!

Does anyone know if this AiProtection is any good? Will it really make my home network more secure?

And how might the firewall built into the router compare to a dedicated hardware firewall such as Firewalla or Pfsense?

ASUS AiProtection: Free Home & Router Security | ASUS UK

Secure your home network and router with subscription-free ASUS AiProtection. Enjoy real-time threat protection, privacy controls, VPN & parental controls.

www.asus.com

 

[I Walk MY Way]

Yes, they are good. I used to have one But after a couple of years of service, it pretty much died.
So I went looking for something with better protection And I discovered netgear. Asus routers are OK in general and the AiProtection Does offer a reasonably good protection However, it is not foolproof. You might want to consider Using Custom firmware On your router, It adds to the stability of the device And the protection. You can cheque this out Home | Asuswrt-Merlin But only if you are technically enabled.

 

[SumTingWong]

I have ASUS AX RT-55 WIFI 6 in mesh routers, and I turn off ASUS AI Protection and only use router's built in firewall. I simply don't trust trend micro privacy policy, AI protection slow down my internet speed from 500 to 430ish, and I find it doesn't protect me as much as software-based security and 3rd party DNS like NextDNS and Quad9. ASUS have no control over Trend Micro's privacy policy.

You can test it if you like it or not. Some people like it and some people don't.

"what can be seen by Trend Micro:

• Product information, such as MAC address, device ID
• Public IP address of the user’s gateway to the internet
• Mobile/PC environment
• Metadata from suspicious executable files
• URLs, Domains and IP addresses of websites visited (which answers the question in the title of this article)
• Metadata of user/device managed by gateway Product
• Application behaviours
• Personal information contained within email content or files to which Trend Micro is provided access
• Behaviours of Product users
• Information from suspicious email, including sender and receiver email address, and attachments
• Detected malicious file information
• Detected malicious network connection information
• Debug logs
• Network Architecture/Topology
• Screen capture of errors"

 

[poopdookie]

The protection is good, signature based. It has stopped log4j. It is good for notifying you of intrusions and blocking them. Phishing...it will block some of them. They will use your datapoints for their systems so take a look at their privacy policy. For free, it is great considering the notifications and trendmicros signatures/blocking is very good.

 

[jetman]

I simply don't trust trend micro privacy policy,

If you have a VPN installed locally on your PC / devices then presumably Trend Micro can't see the URL's you visit ?

IF I am correct about this, then privacy would be less of a concern. However, maybe it would also stop AiProtect from working?

 

[SumTingWong]

If you have a VPN installed locally on your PC / devices then presumably Trend Micro can't see the URL's you visit ?

I believe so, and I think Trend micro can only see your isp ip connect to the vpn ip server.

Not sure if AI protection still work with vpn on though.

 

[upnorth]

From 2023:

Asus Router Access, information disclosure, Denial of Service Vulnerabilities discovered | MalwareTips

https://blog.talosintelligence.com/vulnerability-spotlight-asus-router-access-information-disclosure-denial-of-service-vulnerabilities-discovered/

malwaretips.com

ASUS routers knocked offline worldwide by bad security update | MalwareTips

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/hardware/asus-routers-knocked-offline-worldwide-by-bad-security-update/

malwaretips.com

ASUS urges customers to patch critical router vulnerabilities | MalwareTips

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/asus-urges-customers-to-patch-critical-router-vulnerabilities/

malwaretips.com

ASUS routers vulnerable to critical remote code execution flaws (patched) | MalwareTips

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/asus-routers-vulnerable-to-critical-remote-code-execution-flaws/

malwaretips.com

When patched no problem, but personal I would rather use another brand.

 

[codswollip]

If you have a VPN installed locally on your PC / devices then presumably Trend Micro can't see the URL's you visit ?

True, but then you no longer have AI protection. Simpler, just to turn it OFF.

 

[codswollip]

When patched no problem, but personal I would rather use another brand.

All brands have issues. Particularly Synology.

 

[simmerskool]

So I went looking for something with better protection And I discovered netgear.

...and I discovered Ubiquiti Unifi, so far so good fwiw...

 

[Trident]

The Asus routers have amazing wi-fi performance and AiProtection provides great blocking of malicious websites. The IPS also known as Tipping Point is so so, not Symantec level but does the job with common network attacks.

Trend Micro themselves run a zero day initiative.

Home | Zero Day Initiative

www.zerodayinitiative.com

The list of signatures is here:

Network Content Inspection Rules - Threat Encyclopedia

www.trendmicro.com

 

[poopdookie]

I forgot to add to use Merlins' firmware. Adds many features, cleans up some issues also. If you use the aiprotect with maybe a secure dns provider (like nextdns/Controld) you would have some nice coverage. It will quickly detect mining activity on the network and quarantine the device and warn you via email, webhook whatever. I have seen it notify me when someone visited with a compromised android mobile in the past. LAN performance hasn't really been slowed down (over 1gbe). WAN might be (I don't care much about this). It has blocked log4j vulnerability attacks within a day or so of that going public. I no longer use this, but was always impressed...esp for free. It got better at the end. But you know what they say, when the product is free...

 

[blackice]

From 2023:

Asus Router Access, information disclosure, Denial of Service Vulnerabilities discovered | MalwareTips

https://blog.talosintelligence.com/vulnerability-spotlight-asus-router-access-information-disclosure-denial-of-service-vulnerabilities-discovered/

malwaretips.com

ASUS routers knocked offline worldwide by bad security update | MalwareTips

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/hardware/asus-routers-knocked-offline-worldwide-by-bad-security-update/

malwaretips.com

ASUS urges customers to patch critical router vulnerabilities | MalwareTips

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/asus-urges-customers-to-patch-critical-router-vulnerabilities/

malwaretips.com

ASUS routers vulnerable to critical remote code execution flaws (patched) | MalwareTips

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/asus-routers-vulnerable-to-critical-remote-code-execution-flaws/

malwaretips.com

When patched no problem, but personal I would rather use another brand.

Also I’d add most of these issue have to do with remote access features. Which, for most people, never need to be turned on. ASUS actually had a better track record than most consumer vendors for supporting their routers for extended periods. Part of that was in response to a lawsuit many many years ago. But if you look at companies like Netgear they stop patching much sooner and have vulnerabilities quite often as well.

 

[poopdookie]

Also I’d add most of these issue have to do with remote access features. Which, for most people, never need to be turned on. ASUS actually had a better track record than most consumer vendors for supporting their routers for extended periods. Part of that was in response to a lawsuit many many years ago. But if you look at companies like Netgear they stop patching much sooner and have vulnerabilities quite often as well.

I stopped dealing with Netgear a while ago over their firmware support...plus they charge bla bla. At the time Asus routers had the best overall performance with coverage and speed. They haven't been perfect with the privacy lawsuit and bad security in the past, but I have been impressed over the last few years with their routers. Also super stable (as long as you stay away from usb3