Serious Discussion Best AVs and Worst AVs in Behavioral Health

bazang

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Today, Andy is even writing in Polish. :)
I think he's mad at Adriana.:p
While it is written in Polish, nevertheless it is actually ciphertext using a one-time pad.

That's what all that back-and-forth exchange was about. It seemed adversarial, but that is the entire obfuscation behaviors as to not draw suspicion. Intense, running disagreement on a security forum thread. These rotters are acting normally. The comms are typical. Nothing suspicious to see here. Let's move on.
 
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IceMan7

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AV test labs perform primarily a marketing function.
I agree with that. I've already written that a few times ;) An AV manufacturer that has a brand built on the market will not risk participating in a test where you can be compromised. Marketing-wise, because it cost him a lot.
We talked in this thread about protection which mainly depends on the results of Real-World tests (tests with many 0-day samples).
Eset took only a Bronze Award in Real-World tests, and Avast took the Gold Award.
Ok. But if you look at the table, Eset has the maximum number of stars in all tests.
Besides, the tests were not every month. And what's more - the tests ended before Eset v18. And despite numerous critical remarks about Eset v17 regarding Real-World Protection (that it is weak), it still won the bronze medal. And Kasperky, which is considered by many to be number 1 in this field, does not have any medal. The same Avast/AVG clone called Norton does not appear in the main awards. Surprisingly, with its poorly rated cloud (Sentra), Avira also has a gold medal in Real-World Protection :D
To end this thread, for years this trio has always been mentioned as the best - Kaspersky, Bitdefender and Eset ;)

I do not know Adrian personally. I do not participate in the forum. I have simply known the AvLab portal for many years. I know when this portal was still in its infancy. I know it before Adrian started playing with tests ;)
 
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Ok. But if you look at the table, Eset has the maximum number of stars in all tests.

That is why it was awarded as a product of the year. This also suggests that the differences in protection between Bronze and Gold awards are not especially important.
So, about 10 popular AVs can provide similar protection. In this way, we have circled back to my first post in this thread where I said "I am afraid that I do not know which of the 10 most popular AVs could have the best behavioral protection." :)
It is time to rest a little. :emoji_beer:
 
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I am still puzzled by how Avira and McAfee have greatly improved in the last 2 years. Did they add something new?
 
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bazang

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... rotters? 💀
We were dancing rott'n'roll. :)
rot·ter
[ˈrädər]
noun
informal
dated
derogatory
rotter (noun) · rotters (plural noun)
  1. a cruel, unkind, or dishonourable person:
    "Rosemary had decided that all men were rotters";
    "The rotters were fighting on the forum"
Origin
mid 16th century (in sense thing that causes rot or decay): from rot + -er. The current sense dates from the late 19th century.

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Hamlet knew rotters are cool, smart dudes. Hamlet was way smarter than most.
 

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