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I had been using The Bat! for a few years, as it has good security features; however, a recent win10 update caused it problems on my computer and Rit Lab's support told me others were reporting the similar problems after the update. I either need to decide on a new email client and could use recommendations, or use webmail interface. I use have two primary email services and 2 secondary email services. In the past I did not like Outlook, but I might be open to using it if you consider it secure with good privacy features, I suppose I am most concerned about privacy with Outlook.
 
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I had been using The Bat! for a few years, as it has good security features; however, a recent win10 update caused it problems on my computer and Rit Lab's support told me others were reporting the similar problems after the update. I either need to decide on a new email client and could use recommendations, or use webmail interface. I use have two primary email services and 2 secondary email services. In the past I did not like Outlook, but I might be open to using it if you consider it secure with good privacy features, I suppose I am most concerned about privacy with Outlook.
If you are concerned about privacy with Outlook, you might consider using ProtonMail or Mozilla Thunderbird on your Windows 10 machine. ProtonMail is a highly secure email service that uses end-to-end encryption to protect your emails, and it also comes with a desktop client for Windows. Mozilla Thunderbird is another popular email client that is free and open-source, and it offers a variety of security and privacy features, such as encryption and digital signatures. It also supports multiple email accounts, which seems to be a concern of yours.

If you are not a fan of these options, you might consider checking out Mailbird, which is a Windows email client that offers secure email management for multiple email accounts. Mailbird uses the SSL protocol to encrypt all email traffic and can be a good choice if you want an easy to set up and use client.

In summary, you might want to consider using ProtonMail, Mozilla Thunderbird, or Mailbird as an alternative to Microsoft Outlook that offers good privacy and security features.
 

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If you are concerned about privacy with Outlook, you might consider using ProtonMail or Mozilla Thunderbird on your Windows 10 machine. ProtonMail is a highly secure email service that uses end-to-end encryption to protect your emails, and it also comes with a desktop client for Windows. Mozilla Thunderbird is another popular email client that is free and open-source, and it offers a variety of security and privacy features, such as encryption and digital signatures. It also supports multiple email accounts, which seems to be a concern of yours.

If you are not a fan of these options, you might consider checking out Mailbird, which is a Windows email client that offers secure email management for multiple email accounts. Mailbird uses the SSL protocol to encrypt all email traffic and can be a good choice if you want an easy to set up and use client.

In summary, you might want to consider using ProtonMail, Mozilla Thunderbird, or Mailbird as an alternative to Microsoft Outlook that offers good privacy and security features.
helpful! I do have a proton mail account, but I've only ever used proton's webmail, not realizing proton has an email client for win10 desktop. I have heard of Mailbird and I will look at it too.
 
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helpful! I do have a proton mail account, but I've only ever used proton's webmail, not realizing proton has an email client for win10 desktop. I have heard of Mailbird and I will look at it too.
Yes, ProtonMail does have a desktop client for Windows 10 called ProtonMail Bridge. You can download it from the ProtonMail website and it allows you to use your ProtonMail account with desktop email clients like Outlook, Thunderbird, and Apple Mail while still enjoying the security features of ProtonMail.

Mailbird could also be a good option if you are looking for a more user-friendly interface and want to manage multiple email accounts in one place. It also has a built-in calendar and task manager feature which could be useful depending on your needs. Good luck with your search for the right email client!
 
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If you are concerned about privacy with Outlook, you might consider using ProtonMail or Mozilla Thunderbird on your Windows 10 machine. ProtonMail is a highly secure email service that uses end-to-end encryption to protect your emails, and it also comes with a desktop client for Windows. Mozilla Thunderbird is another popular email client that is free and open-source, and it offers a variety of security and privacy features, such as encryption and digital signatures. It also supports multiple email accounts, which seems to be a concern of yours.

If you are not a fan of these options, you might consider checking out Mailbird, which is a Windows email client that offers secure email management for multiple email accounts. Mailbird uses the SSL protocol to encrypt all email traffic and can be a good choice if you want an easy to set up and use client.

In summary, you might want to consider using ProtonMail, Mozilla Thunderbird, or Mailbird as an alternative to Microsoft Outlook that offers good privacy and security features.
I just checked on Protonmail desktop app. This is what their website says:
DOWNLOAD PROTON MAIL APP FOR WINDOWS
protonemailwin.com is not an official representative or the developer of this application, game or product. Copyrighted materials belong to their respective owners...We cannot guarantee the accuracy of the information on this website. I am not happy with this disclosure, so I will not be using the Protonmail windows desktop app. This is not comment about protonmail service and its security.

I used Thunderbird in the past, but then switched to The Bat!, and when I looked again at Thunderbird, it seemed that for a period of time Mozilla had stopped developing Thunderbird, so please advise what is the current status of Mozilla's involvement with Thunderbird and its development. Last I heard they or someone was developing it from the ground up, and that would take 2 or 3 years.

I am going to checkout Mailbird, which I have never used.
 
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I just checked on Protonmail desktop app. This is what their website says:
DOWNLOAD PROTON MAIL APP FOR WINDOWS
protonemailwin.com is not an official representative or the developer of this application, game or product. Copyrighted materials belong to their respective owners...We cannot guarantee the accuracy of the information on this website. I am not happy with this disclosure, so I will not be using the Protonmail windows desktop app. This is not comment about protonmail service and its security.

I used Thunderbird in the past, but then switched to The Bat!, and when I looked again at Thunderbird, it seemed that for a period of time Mozilla had stopped developing Thunderbird, so please advise what is the current status of Mozilla's involvement with Thunderbird and its development. Last I heard they or someone was developing it from the ground up, and that would take 2 or 3 years.

I am going to checkout Mailbird, which I have never used.
Yes, ProtonMail does not have an official desktop app for Windows, but they do have a tool called ProtonMail Bridge that allows you to use your ProtonMail account with desktop email clients like Outlook, Thunderbird, and Apple Mail while still enjoying the security features of ProtonMail. You can download the Bridge directly from your ProtonMail account.

Regarding Mozilla Thunderbird, it is still being actively developed by the Thunderbird community, which is now separate from Mozilla Corporation. Thunderbird releases are now managed by the Thunderbird Council, a group of volunteers who oversee the development and release of Thunderbird. The developers are working on modernizing the codebase and improving security and privacy features. They recently released Thunderbird 78, which is a major update that includes a refreshed user interface and improved security and privacy features.

I hope this information is helpful to you, and good luck with trying out Mailbird!
 

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Yes, ProtonMail does not have an official desktop app for Windows, but they do have a tool called ProtonMail Bridge that allows you to use your ProtonMail account with desktop email clients like Outlook, Thunderbird, and Apple Mail while still enjoying the security features of ProtonMail. You can download the Bridge directly from your ProtonMail account.

Regarding Mozilla Thunderbird, it is still being actively developed by the Thunderbird community, which is now separate from Mozilla Corporation. Thunderbird releases are now managed by the Thunderbird Council, a group of volunteers who oversee the development and release of Thunderbird. The developers are working on modernizing the codebase and improving security and privacy features. They recently released Thunderbird 78, which is a major update that includes a refreshed user interface and improved security and privacy features.

I hope this information is helpful to you, and good luck with trying out Mailbird!
one last question, doesn't win10 OS have a built-in email client? What do you know about it? I have never used it. Is it secure with privacy features and how does it compare with Outlook since both are provided by Microsoft.
 
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one last question, doesn't win10 OS have a built-in email client? What do you know about it? I have never used it. Is it secure with privacy features and how does it compare with Outlook since both are provided by Microsoft.
Yes, Windows 10 comes with a built-in email client called Windows Mail. It is a simple and easy-to-use email client that comes pre-installed with Windows 10. As for security and privacy features, Windows Mail offers basic security features such as SSL/TLS encryption for sending and receiving emails. However, it is not as secure as some of the other email clients we have discussed, such as ProtonMail and Mozilla Thunderbird, which offer end-to-end encryption and other advanced security features.

When it comes to comparing Windows Mail to Outlook, Outlook is generally considered to be a more robust and feature-rich email client. Outlook offers more advanced features such as better calendar integration, advanced contact management, and task management. However, if you are looking for a simple email client to manage your email accounts, Windows Mail could be a good option.

In conclusion, if you prioritize privacy and security, it might be better to use an email client like ProtonMail or Mozilla Thunderbird on Windows 10. If you are looking for a simple email client to manage your email accounts, Windows Mail is a good option, but it does not offer many advanced features.
 

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You mentioned Outlook (btw the right way to call it is Office Outlook to avoid confusion) has “more advanced calendar integration and contact management”. But I believe the UWP Mail client natively installed with Windows is part of a “suite” that includes calendar and contacts as well. Am I wrong?
 
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You mentioned Outlook (btw the right way to call it is Office Outlook to avoid confusion) has “more advanced calendar integration and contact management”. But I believe the UWP Mail client natively installed with Windows is part of a “suite” that includes calendar and contacts as well. Am I wrong?
I apologize for any confusion, you are correct that the Windows 10 Mail app is part of a suite that includes a calendar and contacts app called Calendar and People respectively. These apps are integrated with the Mail app and can be accessed through the app’s interface.

While the Windows 10 Mail, Calendar, and People apps offer a decent amount of functionality, they may not be as feature-rich as Outlook for Office 365 or other email clients when it comes to advanced functionality such as advanced email rules, better integration with third-party apps, and support for multiple accounts. However, if you are looking for a basic email client that integrates well with Windows 10, the Mail app and its associated apps could be a good option.

In terms of security and privacy features, the Windows 10 Mail app does offer the basic SSL/TLS encryption for email traffic, but it may not be as secure as some of the other email clients mentioned in this thread that offer end-to-end encryption and other advanced security features.
 
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You are saying other clients are more secure. How? And can you say few words about UWP apps security vs desktop apps?
Sure, other email clients such as ProtonMail and Mozilla Thunderbird offer end-to-end encryption, which means that only the sender and the recipient can read the content of the email. This makes it much more difficult for the email to be intercepted or read by unauthorized third parties. Additionally, some email clients offer additional security features such as digital signatures, two-factor authentication, and more.

Regarding UWP apps vs desktop apps, UWP apps are designed with a "sandbox" architecture that isolates them from other apps and the underlying operating system, which can enhance security. UWP apps are also available from the Microsoft Store, which provides a centralized and secure way of distributing apps. However, some users prefer desktop apps because they offer more advanced features and can be more customizable, which can be a good or bad thing security-wise, depending on how the app is designed and used.

Overall, it's important to compare the security features of different email clients, as well as how they store and handle sensitive data such as login credentials, to consider which email client offers the best level of security and privacy for your needs.
 

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Now that you mentioned credentials, I was told many rats are configured to steal data from Thunderbird and Office Outlook. Is the Windows UWP mail app vulnerable to that as well?
 
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Now that you mentioned credentials, I was told many rats are configured to steal data from Thunderbird and Office Outlook. Is the Windows UWP mail app vulnerable to that as well?
It is possible that the Windows 10 UWP Mail app could be vulnerable to security threats such as RATs (Remote Access Trojans) or other malware that can steal data and credentials. however, like any software, the UWP Mail app receives regular security updates from Microsoft to address known vulnerabilities and protect against malware attacks. Therefore, it is important to ensure that the app is up-to-date with the latest security patches and updates.

Additionally, it is always a good practice to take other security measures to protect your system from RATs and other malware. For example, you can use a reliable and up-to-date anti-virus software, avoid opening suspicious attachments or clicking on links from unknown senders, and use strong and unique passwords for your email accounts.

Overall, while it is possible for any email client to be vulnerable to security threats, taking proactive security measures and keeping your software up-to-date can help reduce the risk of malware attacks and keep your data and credentials safe.
 

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Do you know any RATs that affect the UWP mail app? And any that affect Outlook and Thunderbird? I think StrRat is one of them…
There have been various RATs that have been known to target email clients such as Outlook, Thunderbird, and the Windows 10 Mail app. One example is Netwire RAT, which is a remote access trojan that has been known to use email campaigns as a delivery mechanism to install itself on victim's systems and steal data. StrRat, as you mentioned, is another remote access trojan that has been known to target Outlook and Thunderbird.

It is important to note that malware is constantly evolving and new threats are being discovered all the time, so it's important to use proper security measures such as using up-to-date anti-virus software and being cautious with opening suspicious emails and attachments to reduce the risk of being infected with RATs and other types of malware.
 

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Netwire targets Outlook profiles solely, which one targets the UWP mail app?
I apologize for any confusion in my previous response. To my knowledge, there has not been a specific RAT that has been known to target only the Windows 10 UWP Mail app. However, there have been various RATs that have been known to target email clients in general, including Outlook, Thunderbird, and Apple Mail. It is important to keep in mind that malware threats are constantly evolving and changing, so any email client may potentially be vulnerable to a new type of malware.

Again, it's critical to take proactive steps to protect your system and email accounts against malware, regardless of the email client you use. This includes keeping your software up-to-date with the latest security patches, avoiding opening suspicious emails or attachments, and using strong and unique passwords for your email accounts. Additionally, using a reputable anti-virus program can help detect and remove any potential malware threats that may target your email client.
 

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Which one was targeting Apple Mail?
One example of a RAT that has been known to target Apple Mail is OSX/Netwire. This RAT is designed to steal login credentials and other sensitive data from targeted Apple Mail users. Like other types of RATs, OSX/Netwire can enable attackers to remotely access and control the infected system, and it is typically spread through phishing emails or other social engineering techniques.

Like with any email client, it is important to stay vigilant and use best practices for online security, such as regularly updating the software, using strong passwords, and being wary of suspicious emails or attachments. Additionally, a reliable anti-malware solution can help detect and remove any potential threats to your security or privacy.
 
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