Serious Discussion Carbon THE FASTEST WEB 3.0 BROWSER

It's just another chromium crypto browser, backed by some venture capitalists. I'll pass. (n)(n)
Whenever I see Web3... 🤢🤮
Brave clone, with a facelift
The only difference between this and Brave; this has free VPN. "Free".
If there is a browser with absolutely no data collection, you would find most of users adopt; I doubt there is a one, even FF.
Firefox is the only web browser that lets you disable any kind of data collection entirely and you can do it straight from the settings or even about:config. I respect that.
 
or lets me "think" I have disabled?
No, it really let's you disable data collection. You can check where the web browser connects and whether it sends data to Mozilla back through Wireshark. In fact, multiple people did that and Firefox was dead silent.
Why Google supports FF financially?
In 1997, Apple didn't do well and was on the verge of bankruptcy. Who came to the rescue? Microsoft. They invested 150 million dollars into Apple; do you know why? It certainly wasn't a goodwill in question. They were fierce competitors and even had a lawsuit going on at the time. Microsoft invested in Apple because they couldn't allow them to fail. If they did so, Microsoft would looked upon as monopoly and that is bad. They weren't fined once for anti-competitive behavior. So in order to stay away from the trouble they had to invest in Apple; they had no choice.

Google pays Mozilla for same reason, but under disguise as "default search engine" deal. If you look at browser landscape today, you only have two browser engines on the market—Google's Chromium & Mozilla's Gecko. Yes, WebKit exists, but there's only one web browser utilizing it and it's only available for Mac. If Mozilla failed and Firefox stopped development, Google has monopoly with Chromium and would be punished for its anti-competitive practices. In that case, they would be forced to sell Chromium immediately.

Google keeps Mozilla alive because they need them in order to keep themselves in trouble. Mozilla doesn't need Google, they could always cease business, but then Google is deep trouble.
 
But competitors in US market already exist, Safari and Brave.
Look at the browser engine used, not the name. Brave is Chrome with some additional features and design; at heart it's still Chrome so it can't be counted as a real competitor to Chrome.

As I said, Safari is competitor, but you have to take in consideration availability of the browser as well. If we take Mozilla out of the picture, but we keep Chromium and Safari, for Windows you only have Chromium and nothing else. Hence, Google has monopoly for Windows, Linux and Android. Beside, in the US, pretty much everyone uses at least something from Apple. In Europe, that isn't the case.
 
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It’s all Chromium and V8 nowadays, with the last survivors like Edge (switching away from Trident engine) and Opera switching to Chromium. For the Apple products rarely someone uses something different from Safari.

So Chromium has the biggest market share, Firefox market share is negligible and Safari dominates on Apple Devices. But still, the difference between Chromium/Chrome and Safari market share is quite big.

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It’s all Chromium and V8 nowadays, with the last survivors like Edge (switching away from Trident engine) and Opera switching to Chromium. For the Apple products rarely someone uses something different from Safari.

So Chromium has the biggest market share, Firefox market share is negligible and Safari dominates on Apple Devices. But still, the difference between Chromium/Chrome and Safari market share is quite big.

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Used Safari for Windows very long time ago; it was slower than FF, Opera, and even IE.
 
Used Safari for Windows very long time ago; it was slower than FF, Opera, and even IE.
You are referring to Safari 4.3 or whatever which was more than 12-13 years ago. In one of these versions they introduced browser extensions, so you can imagine how old it was. And on my PC it wasn’t slow, just the fonts had weird rendering/smoothing.

Safari for Windows was discontinued in 2012.

Safari is definitely not slow on Apple devices or on my MacBook Pro.

Btw the only reason Firefox is still around is partnerships with companies like Google, ElementAI, adMarketplace and so on, which is where majority of funds come from. There is no such thing as non-for-profit software, no one will commit to writing code every single day just from the goodness of their heart.

Software not backed up by purchases and investments is usually from the Comodo class — abandoned house.
 
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Used Safari for Windows very long time ago; it was slower than FF, Opera, and even IE.
In 2011, when there was still browser competition, I changed browsers quite a few times though I always ended up on Chrome. It was fast and every website worked in it without any issues. Firefox was still terrible back then, Opera couldn't load bunch of pages because Presto was terrible for web compatibility, and Safari... it was probably the worst browser I tried.
 
Safari... it was probably the worst browser I tried.
Software for Windows was never Apple’s focus really. Remember how long Microsoft begged to get iTunes, iCloud and others on the UWP Store. Just like they begged Google to release apps for the mobile platform.
I am describing my experience before the invention of Chrome 🧓
Safari for Windows was killed when Google released Chrome. When Google (previously stating they have 0 interest in browsers) made a U-turn, they revolutionised the browsers. Chrome was quick, free of toolbars and ActiveX controls, no Java or Adobe Flash needed (later on). They got an additional boost from the HTML 5 standard, which also killed Adobe Flash. Google was one of the key participants in its creation. The Chrome browser quickly gained market share.
 
I am describing my experience before the invention of Chrome 🧓
Before Chrome, I reckon using Internet Explorer. But it was only briefly and I barely used it as at that time, my family just got the PC and internet access. Shortly after Chrome arrived and Google recommended it on their site, so we gave it a try (we thought couldn't be worse than Internet Explorer) and kind of stuck with it for a longer period.

In school, we used Internet Explorer and Firefox. We just randomly selected one and use whatever was closest to open. We did later on prefer Firefox, because Adobe Flash wasn't installed on any of the PCs and we didn't have an admin account; Firefox came with Flash support so it was our browser of choice to play games.

Anyway, we're deep into off-topic.
Safari for Windows was killed when Google released Chrome. When Google (previously stating they have 0 interest in browsers) made a U-turn, they revolutionised the browsers. Chrome was quick, free of toolbars and ActiveX controls, no Java or Adobe Flash needed (later on). They got an additional boost from the HTML 5 standard, which also killed Adobe Flash. Google was one of the key participants in its creation. The Chrome browser quickly gained market share.
And it was quick! HELLA QUICK!

Like... every single web browser would stop responding if stumbled upon complex JavaScript file or heavy Adobe Flash file. Chrome handled things flawlessly; not only it didn't freeze at all, but it introduced feature which separated tabs from entire browser UI. If one website stopped working, just one tab would be frozen and crash, not entire browser. It was truly revolutionary.