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This is true, I have to agree, the other day I saw the guy deflating a file using Hexadecimal editor and through there he removes the extra hex values, then saves and the file becomes relatively small and detectable by AV, believe me he uses this technique. If I am wrong in what I said please correct me [USER=99014]@Trident[/USER] or [USER=59691]@Kongo[/USER] or [USER=92939]@Shadowra[/USER]