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Jonny Quest

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I've tried a number of AVs and always return to the built-in option. MS Defender's been working great for me for years. And I have peace of mind.
Yes, and how many articles, work arounds, glitches etc. have you had to use on MS Defender/Security? That is the beauty of it, you don't have or get those 3rd party AV issues.
It truly is set it and forget it.
 

IceMan7

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MS Defender's been working great for me for years. And I have peace of mind.
Defender is part of Windows so it has to work stably :D
I need a bit more protection for my kids, parents and parents-in-law.

So a good network scanner, because they download everything via a browser to the computer. In addition, a good on-demand scanner, if they use USB, for example. And protect your browser from malicious sites
None of the normal people using a computer run every file (but it won't save itself on the disk until it is scanned by the browser with a network AV scanner).
It's cool to watch tests, how people test AV on hundreds of malicious samples. Only, a user who uses a computer every day doesn't do that. So when using a computer every day, sometimes these tests are just a curiosity and as a rule, behavioral protection is just an addition to everyday work, not number one. AV is supposed to protect during normal work, not annoy with conflicts and work in the background so that you don't even feel that you have it. What I'm getting at is that behavioral protection is secondary. Other functions are most important.

In life it always looks like this, that a given AV rocks in tests and then it gives up just when you have it on your computer :D (because no AV is 100% effective always and everywhere)

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What do I like about the current version of ESET (v18), which I am testing?? When I download something via a browser and Eset doesn't like the file, it blocks it. I can't open the file. I get information that the sample went to LiveGuard. And when I get feedback that the file is safe, I can only run the downloaded file.
 
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Is there any antivirus software that has zero bugs? Eset bugs compared to BD are a drop in the ocean. Eset usually does not conflict with other programs. Eset usually does not need to be reinstalled. Eset does not download gigabytes with each update. Eset is not noticeable at all that you have it on your computer. Generally, Eset with BD has no bugsat all or in comparison to BD there are very few of them.. And so you can write and write

Key words - you used it briefly. Use it for a year or more ;)




It's been written here 100 times already. Bitdefender has been rocking the tests for years alongside Kaspersky. Mainly in behavioral protection. You feel safe in this respect when you have BD on your computer. But this is only its only main advantage today. In addition, it has much greater disadvantages compared to other AVs and is worse. Here in video tests (also on YT) it has been mentioned more than once that its detection efficiency has dropped when scanning 0-day samples. Its network (browser) protection is no longer as efficient as it used to be and is slower than many competitors. Banking protection is also average. Etc. I'm not mentioning the resources it takes up, it's heavy on the system (there are many lighter AVs), signatures are some kind of mistake, etc. Nobody criticizes BD in general for its protective capabilities but for the entire software, which is not as refined compared to the competition. If someone used Fsecure on their computer for years, the difference in stability is colossal. The same can be said about Eset or Kaspersky, for example. BD does not shine in this area and is an average, not to say weakling. Supposedly, BD is getting better in stability from year to year (fewer and fewer bugs), but the competition is not standing still. The competition also has its weaknesses, but not that much.
Sometimes I have the impression that some people feel good because BD wins tests, is the best in behavioral protection and nothing else matters. I had Fsecure for 7 years and I had fewer errors in 7 years than on BD for a year. I had a dozen or so AVs on my computer for over 20 years and only BD had to be reinstalled on two computers. Only in the case of BD did I have to look for solutions on the BD forum on average once a month. Now Fsecure has outed itself, so I will have to change it on my machine.
I have been testing Eset for 15 days and I have nothing to complain about. It is fast, lightweight, does not slow down anything, does not have a single error. It doesn't conflict with anything, it updates quickly. It does not slow down web browsing in Firefox. Firefox even works faster than on Fsecure. If I didn't have it in my head that I was testing it, I would have even forgotten that I had it. The only drawback I see today is that it is not cheap.

And I can bet that when BD updates the version again and adds or fixes something to its solutions, there will be a whole bunch of problems again. It's been like this for years.

Sometimes it's better to choose a solution that may not be #1 or #2 in tests, but one that gives you peace of mind for years.

That's all from me on this topic. Now we wait for Shadowra tests ;)
It seems like you have a vendetta against Bitdefender now, if other people had as many issues as you do then we would see it on the forum, I don't see them. Maybe you should lay off the bashing as its only a matter of time before forum members see through your agenda. It s been proven over various years and many tests that Bitdefender, Eset and Kaspersky are probably the top 3 AV's.
 

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It seems like you have a vendetta against Bitdefender now, if other people had as many issues as you do then we would see it on the forum, I don't see them. Maybe you should lay off the bashing as its only a matter of time before forum members see through your agenda. It s been proven over various years and many tests that Bitdefender, Eset and Kaspersky are probably the top 3 AV's.
I like this. If someone has a problem with a product they should let it go. It is true that more complicated products can cause problems. But, then there's another product to switch to and that's it. I am the same way with a product I have been using since 2004. I have to let it go because we don't get along.
 

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I've tried a number of AVs and always return to the built-in option. MS Defender's been working great for me for years. And I have peace of mind.

Same thing here. Over the years I have tried them all and finally decided to install Microsoft Defender for Endpoint on all my windows machines. This is my final choice and I will no longer use third-party antivirus.

Best regards to all.;)
 

IceMan7

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It seems like you have a vendetta against Bitdefender now, if other people had as many issues as you do then we would see it on the forum, I don't see them. Maybe you should lay off the bashing as its only a matter of time before forum members see through your agenda. It s been proven over various years and many tests that Bitdefender, Eset and Kaspersky are probably the top 3 AV's.
Maybe I'll write it differently ;) Since I've only been on the forum for a short time, I'm up to date with reading and I assume that many people don't remember :D
Bitdefender here, as in general on various forums, doesn't have a good reputation when it comes to working in the system. There are two camps here - either someone gave up because they had enough, but there is its fan club that never has any problems :D
I'm not leading a crusade, I'm just writing that I don't know anyone in real life who hasn't had any problems with BD, smaller or bigger.
I've already written. In about 20 days, I'll install BD on my computer for 30 days (TS version) and I'll see how stable it is and if I have anything to complain about :p


BTW
Kaspersky, Bitdefender and Eset have probably been the top for years. This is the holy trinity :p :D
 
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Maybe I'll write it differently ;) Since I've only been on the forum for a short time, I'm up to date with reading and I assume that many people don't remember :D
Bitdefender here, as in general on various forums, doesn't have a good reputation when it comes to working in the system. There are two camps here - either someone gave up because they had enough, but there is its fan club that never has any problems :D
I'm not leading a crusade, I'm just writing that I don't know anyone in real life who hasn't had any problems with BD, smaller or bigger.
I've already written. In about 20 days, I'll install BD on my computer for 30 days (TS version) and I'll see how stable it is and if I have anything to complain about :p


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Kaspersky, Bitdefender and Eset have probably been the top for years. This is the holy trinity :p :D
Then those people should first of all :

  • Check their system software, maybe left overs from other AV present
  • Check their Hardware, maybe their computers are from the dinosaur time
  • Have no idea what they are doing, just install av over av.
Here in the house and with friends and family 0 issues with BD, i always install on a clean system, that way no issues.

So please stop bashing and telling what to do and want people to follow your opinion !
 
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Maybe I'll write it differently ;) Since I've only been on the forum for a short time, I'm up to date with reading and I assume that many people don't remember :D
Bitdefender here, as in general on various forums, doesn't have a good reputation when it comes to working in the system. There are two camps here - either someone gave up because they had enough, but there is its fan club that never has any problems :D
I'm not leading a crusade, I'm just writing that I don't know anyone in real life who hasn't had any problems with BD, smaller or bigger.
I've already written. In about 20 days, I'll install BD on my computer for 30 days (TS version) and I'll see how stable it is and if I have anything to complain about :p


BTW
Kaspersky, Bitdefender and Eset have probably been the top for years. This is the holy trinity :p :D
Yup, give it a try first.
 

IceMan7

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Yup, give it a try first.
And so I will. I hope that what I wrote negatively about BD is in most cases out of date today and that all their bugs are really history. I hope that I am wrong. I'll find out in about a month.


One more question to end the BD and Eset thread on this topic.

If anyone has Bitdefender on Mac, does BD also have such heavy signature updates for Mac? Or is it only on Windows?
I understand that on Mac there are no problems with BD and there are as many processes as in Windows, including not much RAM?
Is Eset just as light on Mac or is it just not that great there?
 
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And so I will. I hope that what I wrote negatively about BD is in most cases out of date today and that all their bugs are really history. I hope that I am wrong. I'll find out in about a month.


One more question to end the BD and Eset thread on this topic.

If anyone has Bitdefender on Mac, does BD also have such heavy signature updates for Mac? Or is it only on Windows?
I understand that on Mac there are no problems with BD and there are as many processes as in Windows, including not much RAM?
Is Eset just as light on Mac or is it just not that great there?
fwiw Malwarebytes has been good on my macOS.
 
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IceMan7

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This has always been an issue of their product. They write from 400-800 MB on almost all signature updates. If you miss a few signature updates, then the writes go over 1 GB. You could say it's almost like a waste of SSDs wite cycles. But in the days of SSD, writing 1 GB or even more shouldn't take much time so their process of verifying downloaded signatures, keeping a backup of the old one, creating new database with the downloaded signatures, all of these takes time. Most other products do all these in seconds. I don't see how any of these would change unless they completely redesign their signature database which is easier said than done.
I got a response from BD about this

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Today I will install BD TS on my computer and check how it behaves for 30 days.
 

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I got a response from BD about this

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Today I will install BD TS on my computer and check how it behaves for 30 days.
I think you misunderstood the 500 MB thing. I never said that Bitdefender downloads 500 MB signature update everytime. That would be absolutely ridiculous. I said the whole process of downloading, verifying the signature, rebuilding large part of the existing signature with the newly downloaded signature and deleting the old out-of-date database, these whole process writes 500 MB on average on each signature update. They literally create a new folder named something like "update.new". Now "update.new" isn't the exact name of the folder. But the name is something like that with word "new" in it as far as I can remember. This folder is created every time signature is updated and here the repackaging of old with new signature happens. Those folders are protected now so not possible anymore to get inside and check at the time of updating. Should be possible to see the name of the folder before it's removed using something like the "Everything" app if you know the exact name.

Anyway, so they said that they are actively working on improving these and have even reduced the database size by 10% this year which is impressive. Hope they continue to do it. I like Bitdefender and I have the best malware submission experience with Bitdefender compared to any other top products. Their forum mods and official employees are very nice people too.
 

IceMan7

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I think you misunderstood the 500 MB thing. I never said that Bitdefender downloads 500 MB signature update everytime.

I understood you very well :) I wrote such a post specifically, in a provocative way :D :p Of course, in a polite manner and without causing offence.;)
To cause a storm because otherwise they will spin or not answer the question ;)
And we got a specific answer. I am also glad that something is finally working with this signature database. Now at least we know that they are working on it ;)
 
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IceMan7

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Anyway, so they said that they are actively working on improving these and have even reduced the database size by 10% this year which is impressive. Hope they continue to do it. I like Bitdefender and I have the best malware submission experience with Bitdefender compared to any other top products. Their forum mods and official employees are very nice people too.
Another response from BD. So they are working on changes. Cool.


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IceMan7

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I think you misunderstood the 500 MB thing. I never said that Bitdefender downloads 500 MB signature update everytime. That would be absolutely ridiculous. I said the whole process of downloading, verifying the signature, rebuilding large part of the existing signature with the newly downloaded signature and deleting the old out-of-date database, these whole process writes 500 MB on average on each signature update. They literally create a new folder named something like "update.new". Now "update.new" isn't the exact name of the folder.
A small addition, because no one writes about it. Bitdefender has ATD and its protection is not based mainly on signatures. It is not Eset.
You can extend the life of the SSD by setting it in the settings so that it does not update the signature database every 1 hour. You can change it, for example, every 3 hours or every 6 hours. Or whatever you prefer.
In my case, it usually updates right after turning on the computer and possibly for the next update ;) I have it set to every 3 hours for today.
 

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