Chinese hackers outnumber FBI cyber staff 50 to 1, bureau director says


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Mar 17, 2023
Chinese hackers outnumber FBI cyber staff 50 to 1, bureau director says

U.S. cyber intelligence staff is vastly outnumbered by Chinese hackers, Federal Bureau of Investigation Director Christopher Wray told Congress as he pleaded for more money for the agency.

“To give you a sense of what we’re up against, if each one of the FBI’s cyber agents and intel analysts focused exclusively on the China threat, Chinese hackers would still outnumber FBI Cyber personnel by at least 50 to 1,” Wray said in prepared remarks for a budget hearing before a House Appropriations subcommittee on Thursday.

The disclosure highlights the massive scale of cyber threats the U.S. is facing, particularly from China. Wray said the country has “a bigger hacking program than every other major nation combined and have stolen more of our personal and corporate data than all other nations—big or small—combined.”

Even so, Wray said countries like Russia, Iran and North Korea also pose significant cybersecurity concerns, on top of non-state criminal actors. The FBI is currently investigating more than 100 “ransomware variants” with “scores of victims” for each.

The agency is requesting about $63 million to help it beef up its cyber staff with 192 new positions. Wray said this would also help the FBI put more cyber staff in field offices to be closer to where victims of cyber crimes actually are.

ForgottenSeer 97327

When you are requesting more money for more resources you are not a hacker in the traditional meaning, (because you are not able to overcome an obstacle)
Wiki traditional said:
A hacker is a person skilled in information technology who uses their technical knowledge to achieve a goal or overcome an obstacle, within a computerized system by non-standard means.

On the plus side when you know that your outnumbered by 50 to 1, your know your opponent well enough to geuestimate their numbers, which makes them (your opponents) not a hacker in the modern meaning (not much of hacker when they leave so much clues behind after a breech)

Wiki modern said:
A security hacker is someone who utilizes their technical know-how of bugs or exploits to break into computer systems and access data which would otherwise be inaccessible to them
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Zero Knowledge

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Dec 2, 2016
Everyone wants more money and resources. Most money is wasted with the last 5% going to worthy endeavours, causes, services and programs.

Money is not the answer to geopolitical and social problems. You can throw all the money in the world at those problems, and it won't fix them.

You have to reform the system and put in logical well run efficient services programs/services/systems, in this case you need to improve infosec in government and to have a training pipeline of good ethical white hat hackers to feed the industry in order to grow the industry.

China may have more people and more hackers, but I would put my money on the USA side having superior skilled hackers and better capabilities..


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Oct 9, 2016

US-controlled ‘empire of hackers’ attacking China, other countries: Report​

So 'empire of hackers' vs '50:1' hackers who is the greater evil?


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