Serious Discussion Cloud Antivirus vs. Traditional Antivirus — Which Actually Protects You Better in 2025? ☁️🛡️

[Parkinsond]

I just watched a video testing Panda Dome (Free) against 1,000 malware samples, and it had a detection rate of 76%

Panda is a super lazy animal; first, they have to change the name to something else such as falcon guard.

 

[Burbulator]

still update their database signatures

1. Reduce load on the cloud infrastructure
2. Be able to provide basic protection when network is unavailable.

 

[Nunzio_77]

But do you think all this will be changed for Panda Dome Free? I think there haven't been any major changes or enhancements for years...

 

[Trident]

Panda is a super lazy animal; first, they have to change the name to something else such as falcon guard.

Well that lazy animal is a good description for a team that:

• The latest update on technologies and blog post was about exploit protection, published 10-15 years ago. Since then, Panda has not written anything about new technologies in products.
• Updates are now published on the WatchGuard website, they are far from impressive. WatchGuard Endpoint Security Documentation | WatchGuard
• The blog was inactive for a few years
• The product doesn’t get frequent updates
• Panda Cloud Cleaner which was their equivalent of Norton Power Eraser is declared abandonware by forum moderators
• WatchGuard added AMSI integration just in 2021, when AMSI was first introduced with Windows 10 in 2015. Products that don’t integrate with the AMSI are rather oblivious to certain threats
• The product often doesn’t install/uninstall properly and causes BSODs.
• TruPrevent that supposedly serves as behavioural blocking is more of a myth than anything else.

 

[ForgottenSeer 114717]

In my opinion, Panda Dome Free is a good antivirus.

Panda says

I don't think Panda believes it needs to improve anything. Even if it did arrive at that conclusion, I'm not convinced it has the personnel or capabilities to achieve significant improvements. The product has been frozen in a maintenance phase for over a decade. Companies with products in maintenance are just trying to keep that product revenue stream alive. There's no incentive or willingness to innovate or improve existing functionality (I'm not talking about adding new features to appear that innovation is happening which is tantamount to bloat).

Although the product owner, WatchGuard Technologies, is trying hard to recruit:



I am not confident that WatchGuard's leadership has the wherewithal or willingness to ever truly improve Panda. As long as they score 100% green bars in easy AV Lab tests, there's just enough consumers out there to buy into that media hype and fill the WatchGuard piggy bank.

 

[Trident]

There's no incentive or willingness to innovate or improve existing functionality (I'm not talking about adding new features to appear that innovation is happening which is tantamount to bloat).

I was talking more about protection features as well (e.g patents for web classification, dll sideloading detection, this sort of stuff). In terms of bloatware, Panda is doing well, they offer VPN, password manager and all the other stuff that borders with this description. Even “premium IT support”.

am not confident that WatchGuard's leadership has the wherewithal or willingness to ever truly improve Panda. As long as they score 100% green bars in easy AV Lab tests, there's just enough consumers out there to buy into that media hype and fill the WatchGuard piggy bank.

The thing is, they no longer do…

I’m guessing the wages aren’t amazing either.

 

[Sorrento]

'The product often doesn’t install/uninstall properly and causes BSODs'

That is absolutely true & my love affair with Panda lasted half hour, as I have images of many I went back to yesterday - As I'm not well still it was interesting, never to try again, back to McAfee

Edited for incorrect grammar.

 

[stonjean633]

Panda is a super lazy animal; first, they have to change the name to something else such as falcon guard.

From Panda to Falcon!
uugghh...I think even transformers can't do that. Hehe.

 

[Parkinsond]

From Panda to Falcon!
uugghh...I think even transformers can't do that. Hehe.

In case the owner insist on animal names

 

[Trident]

In case the owner insist on animal names

There is already CrowdStrike Falcon with the same logo.

 

[Parkinsond]

There is already CrowdStrike Falcon with the same logo.
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[cartaphilus]

> Cloud Antivirus vs. Traditional Antivirus — Which Actually Protects You Better in 2025?

That's like asking what is better - water from the Atlantic or the Pacific ocean?

Whales don't care as long as they can get away from the hoomans.

Great White sharks don't care because they'll eat hoomans in any water. Not a bad solution to solving the hooman problem at a global scale. Force all the hoomans to take a bath with a Great White shark in the tub.

President Trump will rename Great White Shark to Big Beautiful Shark but I digress.

 

[Burbulator]

Just few thoughts from my side: I believe that using cloud part increase an antivirus protection level.
It is much more easier for cybercriminals to unpack signatures, behavior protection and other rules when it is downloaded on a client computer. It opens reverse engineering options for bad guys and they can find a way how to avoid the AV protection.
Cloud part is a black box: your AV sends tons of metrics there but you have no tools for reverse engineering and and you cannot learn how cloud engine uses all these metrics and how it does detection. In edition, an AV vendor can instantly change, update cloud algorithms and this change will immediately applied for all clients. Same update will take hours to distribute it across all clients using traditional way for updates.