Comodo CIS Bug fix policy

[TuxTalk]

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[cruelsister]

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What Fools These Mortals Be...

 

[Pico]

That's what happens when Comodo believers with all their strength defend their ill product promoting it till death us do part.

 

[bazang]

That's what happens when Comodo believers with all their strength defend their ill product promoting it till death us do part.

Nobody here is promoting nor defending Comodo "til death do they part."

The only thing some Comodo users are saying here is one very simple thing, that even a 5 year old can understand: "Comodo works for me ergo I use it. I trust it. It causes me no problems. I use a simple configuration that avoids all the bugs."

Dedicated Comodo users here are not idiots. They have said "I will continue to use it until it no longer protects or it causes me serious problems."

That is not fanaticism. It is common sense.

 

[Behold Eck]

That's what happens when Comodo believers with all their strength defend their ill product promoting it till death us do part.

What death ?? We got Comodo looking after us.

Regards Eck

 

[TuxTalk]

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@Behold Eck Please keep it up. You save me alot of money.

 

[Pico]

5 year old can understand: "Comodo works for me ergo I use it. I trust it. It causes me no problems. I use a simple configuration that avoids all the bugs."

You are a clown start working in a circus.
Even simple configuration causes bugs which can harm your online privacy.
You are unaware of the bugs.

 

[Behold Eck]

@Behold Eck Please keep it up. You save me alot of money.

Sure, just let me know when you`re seated comfortably with the popcorn in easy reach.

Regards Eck

 

[Chuck57]

The "reviews" that I have seen Decopi post have been nothing more than personal opinion posts on websites that provide good reviews only by software publishers that pay.


@Adrian Ścibor at AVLab.pl is a leading industry expert, and a very well respected one on that. His advanced tests are the only ones of their kind in the industry. He does not do them very often because he does not charge the software publisher for the testing. He only charges them if they want the test detail reports.

The attacks on @cruelsister 's video demonstrations are more about attacking her and what she does than they are about what is shown in the video. Launching malware from the desktop is an entirely valid test method. Anyone that says otherwise either does not understand malware testing and\or is just being argument for the sake of being argumentative.

The attacks on her are more about jealousy. She has followers.. That position may be sprinkled with a little sexism. A woman dares challenge we self proclaimed experts? How dare she!!

 

[bazang]

Even simple configuration causes bugs which can harm your online privacy.

Really? Harm a person's online privacy whenever everybody knows there is no such thing as online privacy, even when using a VPN, Proxy, or IP Revolver.

Comodo is not harming anyone.

If it has all these bugs that make it harmful and terrible security software, then why do you keep trying to use it?

Why does it matter to you so much that a some people make Comodo work for them and they have no troubles with it?

You are unaware of the bugs.

I saw the list of reported bugs. All software has bugs. So what? There is a long history of capable users here at MT finding workarounds to the Comodo bugs.

Again, what some MT members are saying is this:

I suppose you miss the main point - which is that those users ignore the reported bugs. More than a few reported bugs are merely proof-of-concept (POCs), that debatably, present a real problem. Other reported bugs affect usability and can be completely avoided by using CS configuration.

The whole user mentality that "If it is reported, then it must be fixed yesterday otherwise it is insecure. Anybody that uses it is being harmed." is nonsense.

 

[Chuck57]

Really? Harm a person's online privacy whenever everybody knows there is no such thing as online privacy, even when using a VPN, Proxy, or IP Revolver.

Comodo is not harming anyone.

If it has all these bugs that make it harmful and terrible security software, then why do you keep trying to use it?

Why does it matter to you so much that a some people make Comodo work for them and they have no troubles with it?


I saw the list of reported bugs. All software has bugs. So what? There is a long history of capable users here at MT finding workarounds to the Comodo bugs.

Again, what some MT members are saying is this:

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Good questions. I think I have one answer. They know best, and we should be obedient and do as they say. That's the impression I get, anyway.

 

[Trident]

There's more but I'm sure it is pointless as you will only counter-argue that these and a whole bunch of other independent test results are somehow flawed and misleading to the general public.

Nobody calls them “misleading to piblic”. But there is a slight conflict between

Nobody has ever supplied an in-the-wild malware that bypasses Comodo's containment whereas thousands of malware have bypassed Avast, Bitdefender, Kaspersky, Norton, etc.

And the lab test result, isn’t there?

So again, who do we trust, you didn’t answer. You and people who claim AVs are oblivious or

@Adrian Ścibor at AVLab.pl is a leading industry expert, and a very well respected one on that. His advanced tests are the only ones of their kind in the industry. He does not do them very often because he does not charge the software publisher for the testing. He only charges them if they want the test detail reports.

You just love dancing around questions with long, unrelated posts.

Again, who do we trust? Lab expert or you and Cruelsister? You must choose one.

 

[bazang]

Nobody calls them “misleading to piblic”.

Decopi and Pico are both on public record here at MT stating that Comodo, and in the case of Decopi, that @cruelsister and the "Comodo fanatics irresponsibly and immorally mislead the public."

you and people who claim AVs are oblivious or

I never said that Comodo, or any AV for that matter is "oblivious" to malware.

What I said specifically is that nobody has ever supplied an in-the-wild malware - a real malware, one that does real harm to the system and not some digitally signed PUP that, when executed, does nothing - that bypassed Comodo containment.

Again, who do we trust? Lab expert or you and Cruelsister? You must choose one.

No. Nobody needs to choose. @cruelsister 's videos are valid. So are Leo's PC Security Channel assessments and reviews. Next there are many tests of Comodo going back all the way to the 2010 era that were credible, performed meticulously by industry experts, and they showed that Comodo achieved the stated primary goal of any antivirus - to keep the system clean and protect the integrity of the data on the system.

@cruelsister is trustworthy. Leo from PC Security Channel is trustworthy. @Adrian Ścibor is trustworthy. AV Comparatives is trustworthy. AV Test is trustworthy.

All the bugs in the world do not matter if a security software achieves its stated purpose which is to protect the system and the data on it. It does not matter if the technology is the equivalent of Stoneage era flint stones. Microsoft still supports and deploys ancient technology such as software restriction policy. Why? Because it just works despite the list of bugs and issues.

 

[Chuck57]

This is a similar situation. "Experts" have said Jeeps today are riddled with various problems and Jeeps rate very low on the reliability scale. Those reports and findings worry a lot of people who go far off paved roads into really rough country. As a result, sales are down.

However, there are people who ignore the reports. They have Jeeps and take them into very rough country, and have no problems of any kind. I will believe those using the Jeeps over what Consumer Reports says. Those owners use the Jeep, beat it up, and they find that mechanically their Jeeps work fine and the issues are minor or nonexistent.

So, I'll trust Cruelsister, who has used, tested, and hammered Comodo Firewall with every malware she can find through the years, over someone who is less familiar with it.

 

[Trident]

I never said that Comodo, or any AV for that matter is "oblivious" to malware.

You didn’t, but others did.

And you said that “Comodo was consistently demonstrated to be performing better” when on the lab test, we see all the same results.

 

[Chuck57]

You didn’t, but others did.

And you said that “Comodo was consistently demonstrated to be performing better” when on the lab test, we see all the same results.

Aahhh, I think I understand. Every post anyone makes about any software of any brand should be accompanied by a disclaimer. Of course, you and the others must abide by the same rule.

 

[Trident]

Aahhh, I think I understand. Every post anyone makes about any software of any brand should be accompanied by a disclaimer. Of course, you and the others must abide by the same rule.

There are generic disclaimers placed on top of various sections, which clearly state that certain content should be taken with a grain of salt.

Nevertheless, statements are made, then people turn around and contradict themselves. This is how it always goes on every Comodo thread.

First, it’s stated that it performs better than everyone else. Then, as “evidence”, sort of like we are in court, some tests are being waved and published. According to the same tests deposited as evidence, again, not by me, Comodo has the same, if not worse performance than everyone else.

Then people turn around and say “I never said it was better” but simultaneously, continue to state that malware bypasses other AVs and Comodo is “unbeatable”.

It’s a lot of contradictions, although some of their statements, for example the revenue required to implement improvements, are right on point

 

[Chuck57]

There are generic disclaimers placed on top of various sections, which clearly state that certain content should be taken with a grain of salt.

Nevertheless, statements are made, then people turn around and contradict themselves. This is how it always goes on every Comodo thread.

First, it’s stated that it performs better than everyone else. Then, as “evidence”, sort of like we are in court, some tests are being waved and published. According to the same tests deposited as evidence, again, not by me, Comodo has the same, if not worse performance than everyone else.

Then people turn around and say “I never said it was better” but simultaneously, continue to state that malware bypasses other AVs and Comodo is “unbeatable”.

It’s a lot of contradictions, although some of their statements, for example the revenue required to implement improvements, are right on point

If every Comodo thread should have a disclaimer, than EVERY thread about every brand ought to have the same disclaimer attached to every post. Generic disclaimers cannot provide blanket coverage to all opinions.

Lead the way, Trident. Show us you're willing to back up your belief with action, and we'll follow suit.

I am more than willing to add a disclaimer to all future posts I make, regardless whether Comodo or not, saying that such applies only to my laptop. Your results may vary. However, the same applies to you. What occurs on your computer, based on what you do with the software, is not necessarily relevant to me or others and that should be noted in your posts.

 

[Trident]

If every Comodo thread should have a disclaimer, than EVERY thread about every brand ought to have the same disclaimer attached to every post. Generic disclaimers cannot provide blanket coverage to all opinions.

These disclaimers are not needed on every post and every thread. Wherever they are needed, such as video reviews, they have been placed, feel free to open any review and you will see the disclaimer. It’s not something that I’ve made up, it’s there for everyone to see it.

I am more than willing to add a disclaimer to all future posts I make, regardless whether Comodo or not

You don’t need to add any disclaimers. This is a public forum, everyone comes and posts what they believe is the truth and it is the user’s responsibility in the end, to do their due diligence and draw the right conclusions. Neither you, nor anybody else has to “pre-chew” everything for the “almighty reader”.

But then with statements that Comodo outperforms others consistently, others being “oblivious to malware”, made based on one or 2-3 samples, without any further clarifications (provided later on after loads of poking around), as well as with distorted truths, we are not going to agree.

 

[Chuck57]

These disclaimers are not needed on every post and every thread. Wherever they are needed, such as video reviews, they have been placed, feel free to open any review and you will see the disclaimer. It’s not something that I’ve made up, it’s there for everyone to see it.

You don’t need to add any disclaimers. This is a public forum, everyone comes and posts what they believe is the truth and it is the user’s responsibility in the end, to do their due diligence and draw the right conclusions. Neither you, nor anybody else has to “pre-chew” everything for the “almighty reader”.

But then with statements that Comodo outperforms others consistently, others being “oblivious to malware”, made based on one or 2-3 samples, without any further clarifications (provided later on after loads of poking around), as well as with distorted truths, we are not going to agree.

Then what's the problem? In other posts you complain about us making specious claims about Comodo, and in the next, it's a public forum where we can post what we believe. And then, you complain about statements made about Comodo - primarily because one certain individual made videos showing such.

So, it's okay to make such posts, but it isn't.