App Review Comodo Firewall vs a new Data Stealer

[ForgottenSeer 114834]

Sometimes catastrophes such as you mentioned are the best learning experience. Lord knows I did it enough, exactly as you've described. I learned from it. I used an old firewall and configured it without a clue what I was doing, and ended up locking myself out of my own computer. After reinstalling, I was more careful, but did the same thing, and again. Finally I got it right. I learned by trial and error.

It is how I learned as well, though most users neither have the will or desire to learn or the aptitude to go through all that, and it's one of the main reasons it's a responsibility to warn users they face potential issues as such learning this type of security software.

This reminds me of one TPSC video about default-deny: there's a popup, and you're only given certain information, and you don't know if you should allow or block. Meanwhile, you have work to submit in an hour and you're rushing.

This is the actual reality for most users. Understanding the operating system is just the beginning, then you need to know how the software you are using also interacts with the operating system. It takes extensive knowledge to properly use these type of securities, they are not designed for novice to average users.

 

[Behold Eck]

I take the position that it doesn't matter whether the person using CIS, full or just firewall, is average or expert. That's like telling someone you've never driven any car but a VW beetle. You can't have a Corvette (Ferrari, etc) because you're not knowledgeable enough. It's a non argument because it is their computer to put on whatever software they choose. not for you, me, or anybody else to dictate.

The car analogy is a good one as it makes me think of cruelsister as a great driving instructor.

Regards Eck

 

[overdivine]

If every user in the world installed ESET on Windows 11, the worldwide infection rate could initially drop by 40-50%, with a more sustainable long-term reduction of around 35-45%.
If every user in the world installed Norton 360 on Windows 11, the worldwide infection rate could initially drop by 30-40%, with a more sustainable long-term reduction of around 25-35%.
If every user in the world installed Comodo on Windows 11 and maintained proper containment settings, the worldwide infection rate could initially drop by 50-60%, with a more sustainable long-term reduction of around 40-50%.
If every user in the world installed Trend Micro on Windows 11, the worldwide infection rate could initially drop by 30-40%, with a more sustainable long-term reduction of around 25-35%.
If every user in the world installed Kaspersky on Windows 11, the worldwide infection rate could initially drop by 40-50%, with a more sustainable long-term reduction of around 35-45%.
If every user in the world installed Bitdefender on Windows 11, the worldwide infection rate could initially drop by 35-45%, with a more sustainable long-term reduction of around 30-40%.
If every user in the world installed F-Secure on Windows 11, the worldwide infection rate could initially drop by 30-40%, with a more sustainable long-term reduction of around 25-35%.

"if all the users in the world would install ********, on windows 11 , how much do you estimate the worldwide infection rate would drop ?" - chatgpt

food for thought

 

[ForgottenSeer 114834]

If every user in the world installed ESET on Windows 11, the worldwide infection rate could initially drop by 40-50%, with a more sustainable long-term reduction of around 35-45%.
If every user in the world installed Norton 360 on Windows 11, the worldwide infection rate could initially drop by 30-40%, with a more sustainable long-term reduction of around 25-35%.
If every user in the world installed Comodo on Windows 11 and maintained proper containment settings, the worldwide infection rate could initially drop by 50-60%, with a more sustainable long-term reduction of around 40-50%.
If every user in the world installed Trend Micro on Windows 11, the worldwide infection rate could initially drop by 30-40%, with a more sustainable long-term reduction of around 25-35%.
If every user in the world installed Kaspersky on Windows 11, the worldwide infection rate could initially drop by 40-50%, with a more sustainable long-term reduction of around 35-45%.
If every user in the world installed Bitdefender on Windows 11, the worldwide infection rate could initially drop by 35-45%, with a more sustainable long-term reduction of around 30-40%.
If every user in the world installed F-Secure on Windows 11, the worldwide infection rate could initially drop by 30-40%, with a more sustainable long-term reduction of around 25-35%.

"if all the users in the world would install ********, on windows 11 , how much do you estimate the worldwide infection rate would drop ?" - chatgpt

food for thought

You forgot something in the mix. The topper that drastically drops the percentage is ... Drumroll please....

LINUX

Given these factors, a reasonable estimate is that the worldwide infection rate might drop by around 50-90% if all users switched from Windows to Linux. This range accounts for both the decreased volume of malware targeting Linux and the fact that some malware might adapt or shift to target Linux systems. -chatGPT

 

[Chuck57]

Comodo's Fanatics = Flat Earthers.



1. The dogmatized faithful fanatic, who insists on the argument: “It's good for me, then it's good for everyone” blah blah blah. They are irresponsible people.

The dogmatized Comodo haters, who insists on the argument: "It's NO good for me, so it's no good for anyone" blah blah blah. They are irresponsible people.

Flat earthers........can't you argue a point without that sort of stuff. You're intelligent, I'm sure you can.

 

[overdivine]

You forgot something in the mix. The topper that drastically drops the percentage is ... Drumroll please....

LINUX

"In essence, keeping all PCs shut down would provide a drastic and almost immediate reduction in infection rates due to the cessation of malware activity and propagation." - chatgpt

but oopsie, at least we know now it looks like is doing great on windows 11 systems

 

[ForgottenSeer 114834]

"In essence, keeping all PCs shut down would provide a drastic and almost immediate reduction in infection rates due to the cessation of malware activity and propagation." - chatgpt

but oopsie, at least we know now it looks like is doing great on windows 11 systems

I actually considered that response myself but felt it wasn't necessary. The initial issue with malware and security was plain to see in what I did post. Although to be honest I'm not sure what these security abilities to protect users "which I'm sure depends greatly on how customized the product is" (Something chatbot did not consider in its assessment of products) has anything to do with users abilities to understand operating systems or default deny systems.

 

[Chuck57]

Lynx........I think there are people here jealous of CS and the fact a few others listen and use her recommendations rather than theirs. Perhaps the fact that she's female has something to do with it as well.

 

[ForgottenSeer 114834]

Lynx........I think there are people here jealous of CS and the fact a few others listen and use her recommendations rather than theirs. Perhaps the fact that she's female has something to do with it as well.

It is why I post what I do. To get to the point of the matter that casual readers understand software pushed by users with way more experience may not be suitable for them. At least help them understand "how" products work so they know what they are getting into.

As far as the jealousy and users slamming on each other defending a product I have no desire to be affiliated with that aspect. Users need to decide for themselves what works for them, their uses of system and of course by their level of experience and capabilities to handle such software. It is one thing to follow a guide on how to set something up and quite another one to understand why you just made those changes and what they affect.

As for the reason possibly being because this user claims to be female, well that's just speculative. Everyone should be aware that this is the Internet and anyone can pretend to be what they want in places where real names are not used and all identities are hidden behind screens. CS could be a male sitting in his parents basement with too much time on his hands for all we know. Never presume to know what you think you see on the Internet, question everything.

 

[Chuck57]

CS could be a male sitting in his parents basement................. But to some people, assuming CS is female, her operating in a presumed male field is enough to trigger them.

I'm not sure when or why computers, repair, function, programming etc was ever considered a male field. It cannot compare to working as a roughneck in the oil fields.

 

[ForgottenSeer 114834]

CS could be a male sitting in his parents basement................. But to some people, assuming CS is female, her operating in a presumed male field is enough to trigger them.

If that would be the case then those triggered stem from a testosterone problem which they will need to seek medical assistance to prevent them from pounding on their chest, ruffling their peacock feathers while simultaneously preventing them from peeing on everything. I'm pretty sure they make a pill for that now days.

 

[Chuck57]

That's just my opinion by seeing that every time Cruelsister posts, the same several are there to denounce what she's said - whether Comodo related or other topics.

 

[cruelsister]

That's just my opinion by seeing that every time Cruelsister posts, the same several are there to denounce what she's said - whether Comodo related or other topics.

The Dogs may bark, but the Caravan travels on...

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[Trident]

The Dogs may bark, but the Caravan travels on...

m

The caravan:

 

[ForgottenSeer 114834]

That's just my opinion by seeing that every time Cruelsister posts, the same several are there to denounce what she's said - whether Comodo related or other topics.

This kind of posts feeds into that though, as it screams gender inequality. Instead of directly addressing the issues. Some members commenting took issue with the statement "oblivious to malware" made in the video, an unnecessary statement. Also a incorrect statement because simultaneously there was another thread with products stopping the sample, which ironically enough was not even being tested with real world testing to test the scope of the products abilities.

This could have all been avoid without the comment. Matter of fact, it's best to test a product and let its results speak for itself. Less attention may be made to the thread but at least it would then be a more positive aspect. This responsibility lies in the hands of user testing and posting.

I stepped in just because of part of that aspect. The improper testing but comments made. Then default deny topic comes up so I addressed that as well.

CS is correct that testing of specific modules is still relevant as to how they perform should something slide by other modules or those modules be ineffective. It is not correct however to state a product fails without first properly testing all modules.

It is also very incorrect to assume that just because a handful of users are using a guide to set up this installation of CIS that they can accurately handle the application if issues did arise. Since they lack understanding to set it up themselves and most likely lack deep understanding of the operating system and how the applications they choose to run interact with the OS.

So basically a disclaimer stating that the product is not designed for novice to average users and lack of unnecessary untrue comments would stop a lot of this.

 

[Chuck57]

Lynx.......In fact it does scream gender inequality, by those several who consistently challenge her posts and dissect every phrase she utters.

 

[Trident]

Lynx.......In fact it does scream gender inequality, by those several who consistently challenge her posts and dissect every phrase she utters.

None of us ever announced their genders. Why do you assume that we are different genders? Very presumptuous you know… and totally not related to the technical discussion. Just saying.

 

[Chuck57]

None of us ever announced their genders. Why do you assume that we are different genders? Very presumptuous you know… and totally not related to the technical discussion. Just saying.

LOL........weak. Really weak.

 

[Trident]

LOL........weak. Really weak.

Well I’m a gentle flower
You are attacking me, smells of gender unequalty.

 

[Chuck57]

I'm not attacking you, only that post.

I write. My crap novels have characters. When one of my female characters speaks, she has to "sound" female. Women often use different phraseology than men. Not always but sometimes. Despite today's world, there are differences between men and women, and I'm old enough to thank God for those differences, including their speech.