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<blockquote data-quote="upnorth" data-source="post: 973681" data-attributes="member: 38832">Depending on who one ask/talk to ( knowledge/skill ), all companies/vendors and developers software have known or unknown bugs either one like it or not. That&#039;s the true genuine nature of all software code. Pretty silly if people shouldn&#039;t use any software merely from that point of perspective, and of course people don&#039;t. This forum alone is flooded with updates in many sections on &quot; bugs &quot;. Some less explained, and some more. Some people have them, and others not.In this specific case with a very well known slow shutdown problem, for some 100% confirmed and others zero existing. It&#039;s for sure a noticed bug for some and just as sure for others, not a noticed bug! Your still stating your facts of a bugged software and no point of using it, even for those that don&#039;t have an &quot; issue &quot; with it.I fully understand you don&#039;t see a problem with that, but it&#039;s called &quot; reckless behavior &quot; and giving poor and weak security advices based from non final conclusive assessment directed to people that don&#039;t have an actual issue/problem with a &quot; security &quot; software. Again! All software have &quot; Bugs &quot;, yes even F-Secure SAFE. Had before, have now and will later. Same thing all other software have, also security software! That, does not automatic means I would even consider try inform everyone, also users that don&#039;t have an obvious or seen or noticed problem/issue, to stop using their software no matter what vendor or brand just because, I don&#039;t like that specific software for any reason.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="upnorth, post: 973681, member: 38832"] Depending on who one ask/talk to ( knowledge/skill ), all companies/vendors and developers software have known or unknown bugs either one like it or not. That's the true genuine nature of all software code. Pretty silly if people shouldn't use any software merely from that point of perspective, and of course people don't. This forum alone is flooded with updates in many sections on " bugs ". Some less explained, and some more. Some people have them, and others not. In this specific case with a very well known slow shutdown problem, for some 100% confirmed and others zero existing. It's for sure a noticed bug for some and just as sure for others, not a noticed bug! Your still stating your facts of a bugged software and no point of using it, even for those that don't have an " issue " with it. I fully understand you don't see a problem with that, but it's called " reckless behavior " and giving poor and weak security advices based from non final conclusive assessment directed to people that don't have an actual issue/problem with a " security " software. Again! All software have " Bugs ", yes even F-Secure SAFE. Had before, have now and will later. Same thing all other software have, also security software! That, does not automatic means I would even consider try inform everyone, also users that don't have an obvious or seen or noticed problem/issue, to stop using their software no matter what vendor or brand just because, I don't like that specific software for any reason. [/QUOTE]

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