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[zidong]

why most exciting? in 50 words or less
I clicked your link and get "You've been blocked by network security." Running MX here connected via mullvad... maybe they're blocking me rather than visa versa

Completely new DE developed in Rust. More customizable, stable, light and fast than Gnome. At least what I expect. I'm tired of Gnome and KDE. 101 extensions to achieve basic functionality but break something else.
This will be my last attempt to go back to linux.

 

[lokamoka820]

Mark My Words: Pop OS 24.04 LTS Is Going To Be The Most Exciting Desktop Operating System Release In Several Years.​

I'm excited too. I can't wait for the release.

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Linux history is full of distros and desktop environment that come and go, so creating a new one will not make users exciting anymore, the reason for that is lack of funding, Pop OS tried to be an Ubuntu replacement, and it was impressive in first release, after a couple of releases users learns how to add Pop OS features to Ubuntu by themselves and left Pop OS, so they tried to make COSMIC DE to get users back, but Budgie tried this before without success.

By the way after 2 releases of Pop OS they said they will not follow Ubuntu normal releases and will stick with LTS releases because they lack developers to follow with every release, will they manage to develop Pop OS and COSMIC DE now in the same time?

 

[simmerskool]

@TuxTalk fwiw I noticed a blurb at VMware that v17.6.0 now runs Fedora40 so I will try again in a few days... (or the failure to install on VMw 16.2 was (probably) not user error

 

[zidong]

List of desktops that were forked from GNOME [And similar]​

Unlike many others the new Cosmic DE is not based on Gnome. Wiki - COSMIC is made from scratch and is not based on any existing desktop environment and written on Rust. New DE not based on gnomе or kde is HUGE news. About the funding, yes they don't have Canonical behind them, but they are much better financially than 99% of linux distros developers.
About Ubuntu - SNAP. I don't like it and never would use it. if I want a Windows equivalent I would stick with Windows.
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[TuxTalk]

List of desktops that were forked from GNOME [And similar]​

Unlike many others the new Cosmic DE is not based on Gnome. Wiki - COSMIC is made from scratch and is not based on any existing desktop environment and written on Rust. New DE not based on gnomе or kde is HUGE news. About the funding, yes they don't have Canonical behind them, but they are much better financially than 99% of linux distros developers.
About Ubuntu - SNAP. I don't like it and never would use it. if I want a Windows equivalent I would stick with Windows.
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If Pop finally fixes his updates. just updated my daughters PC and after the update, dead ! So bye bye Pop and Fedora installed.
This is the 2nd time this issue happend with Pop. Can you imagine their Cosmic attempt ?

 

[zidong]

22.04 lts was very stable, but this was year ago when I used it. Now...I don't know. Keep in mind that if you use many 3rd party gnome/kde extensions, you may have problems (valid for any distro) after big updates. Follow their subreddit for news, fixes and updates - r/pop_os

 

[TuxTalk]

22.04 lts was very stable, but this was year ago when I used it. Now...I don't know. Keep in mind that if you use many 3rd party gnome/kde extensions, you may have problems (valid for any distro) after big updates. Follow their subreddit for news, fixes and updates - r/pop_os

No extensions at all...pure Pop.

 

[TuxTalk]

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[simmerskool]

question about an anomaly... wonder if indication of deeper config issue or just snafu...
running MX-Linux xfce 4.18 running in VMware 17.6. I set xfcescreensaver to activate after +15 min and to lock. it works during the day aok, and usually works overnight / in the morning when I go to use it, sceensaver is on and asks for pw and I'm in. BUT twice including this am, I enter pw and it says "incorrect" (I did enter it correctly!), I try again but keyboard seems dead, no input. Rather than reboot or crash system, the pw input window has option to switch user, I do that, screen resets and offers pw input window again but same user, me, and lets me input the pw and desktop and system seem normal. (just me & root as far as I know).
Question: how abnormal is this? This un-nerves me somewhat. Is this some "typical" linux snafu, or indication of deeper problem. I am re-learning linux and too inexperienced to have a good sense what this is. Wondering if some xscreensaver bug, a config error I made during installation, that I am otherwise not detecting, or worse some sort of overnight hack.

 

[Victor M]

it is probably a malfunction of some sort.

 

[lokamoka820]

question about an anomaly... wonder if indication of deeper config issue or just snafu...
running MX-Linux xfce 4.18 running in VMware 17.6. I set xfcescreensaver to activate after +15 min and to lock. it works during the day aok, and usually works overnight / in the morning when I go to use it, sceensaver is on and asks for pw and I'm in. BUT twice including this am, I enter pw and it says "incorrect" (I did enter it correctly!), I try again but keyboard seems dead, no input. Rather than reboot or crash system, the pw input window has option to switch user, I do that, screen resets and offers pw input window again but same user, me, and lets me input the pw and desktop and system seem normal. (just me & root as far as I know).
Question: how abnormal is this? This un-nerves me somewhat. Is this some "typical" linux snafu, or indication of deeper problem. I am re-learning linux and too inexperienced to have a good sense what this is. Wondering if some xscreensaver bug, a config error I made during installation, that I am otherwise not detecting, or worse some sort of overnight hack.

No it is not your fault or some sort of hack, xfce4-screensaver known to freeze after suspend, I tried a lot of workarounds, but sometimes it freezes again, and I have to reboot, this is why some distros like Linux Mint replace it with xscreensaver, but I don't know if it will need to be configured, or it will work automatically, this reason alone let me switch to Mate DE instead of XFCE sometimes.

By the way, sometimes the lock screen will be active but not shown, you can move the cursor, but the keyboard will not respond, if you face this situation, just enter the password and click enter, and you will on your controllable desktop again.

 

[simmerskool]

No it is not your fault or some sort of hack, xfce4-screensaver known to freeze after suspend, I tried a lot of workarounds, but sometimes it freezes again, and I have to reboot, this is why some distros like Linux Mint replace it with xscreensaver, but I don't know if it will need to be configured, or it will work automatically, this reason alone let me switch to Mate DE instead of XFCE sometimes.

By the way, sometimes the lock screen will be active but not shown, you can move the cursor, but the keyboard will not respond, if you face this situation, just enter the password and click enter, and you will on your controllable desktop again.

excellent info. MX does show that xscreensaver is installed but not set up, I briefly looked at it this morning, and it said something about gnome (either on or off I don't recall) so I did nothing other than disable the lock. so I will get into xscreensaver more deeply, update exactly what the popup said... Also any other screensaver apps that will work in MX xfce ... Or maybe just manually lock when I step away...

 

[simmerskool]

update re xscreensaver: seems to be installed ok and working as config'd & expected. the popup warning it gave me yesterday was to "kill" the gnome screen saver daemon (xfce4-screensaver) even though I had already disabled the xfce_screensaver. Let x do that, and so far so good. more linux happiness

 

[SeriousHoax]

Instead of using an Arch based distro installed the main guy, Arch itself.
I actually installed it more than 10 days ago but because of a different issue my whole SSD partition was gone so had to reinstall Arch a couple of days ago.
Don't know when something's gonna break but so far so good. Keeping backups of Arch using Rescuezilla in case of a disaster.

 

[TuxTalk]

My Laptop died, so bought a new laptop today.
Popped in my Fedora USB and installed it, so bye bye WIndows.

Installed : Fedora Workstation 40


After Distrohopping on my old laptop , i always come back to Fedora, tried KDE Plasma, thats really not my thing.
On this laptop Fedora runs better, can see alot of difference. Now waiting for Fedora Workstation 41.

 

[simmerskool]

My Laptop died, so bought a new laptop today.
Popped in my Fedora USB and installed it, so bye bye WIndows.

Installed : Fedora Workstation 40


After Distrohopping on my old laptop , i always come back to Fedora, tried KDE Plasma, thats really not my thing.
On this laptop Fedora runs better, can see alot of difference. Now waiting for Fedora Workstation 41.

Fedora is on my short list. I am currently in a hold-pattern as VMware Bridged mode developed an issue with my network_router config that I am slowly unraveling. I did install Ubuntu 24.04.1 LTS about a week ago, but seemed too graphical for me. Right now, MX xfce4 has right mix of graphical/terminal for me, although I also installed FreeBSD and enjoy (re)learning shell, etc. I'm probably not using the right lingo.